loud pipes ?
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That is right I do have slip ons.
Read the whole description "50 state legal with the EPA stamp". So if I got pulled over all of the numbers match so nothing would happen. And I can guarantee you I am not "loud pipes save life's biker" Engaged brains save lives not loud pipes.
But the issue that bringing this to a head is the idiot riders with thefollowing attitudes " screw the world it is my right to make all of the noise I want", " I am real loud look at me" and last "loud pipes save lives". You guys have brought this whole thing upon us all. And there will be legislation that will be even more restrited than in the near future, that is a fact.
Read the whole description "50 state legal with the EPA stamp". So if I got pulled over all of the numbers match so nothing would happen. And I can guarantee you I am not "loud pipes save life's biker" Engaged brains save lives not loud pipes.
But the issue that bringing this to a head is the idiot riders with thefollowing attitudes " screw the world it is my right to make all of the noise I want", " I am real loud look at me" and last "loud pipes save lives". You guys have brought this whole thing upon us all. And there will be legislation that will be even more restrited than in the near future, that is a fact.
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I did read the whole description, the fact that you went to the trouble to put it there under both bikes was not lost on me. "50 state legal with the EPA stamp" don't mean **** to how loud the pipe is. It's merely a certification that it's a legal modification on a pollution controlled vehicle nothing more. So if you do get pulled over because LEO thinks your just a bit too loud he won't care if you think it's all good. I wasn't pegging you as running with the "too loud crew" and it's all well and good that you are a law abiding responsible citizen, but it doesn't doesn't matter. If someone else thinks your bike is too loud then it's too loud and when you automatically get thrown into the mix...Who's going to tell you your bike's too loud??
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No offense but I do have a clue... I've been modding cars and bikes for a long long time and while the EPA does govern noise pollution. The cert that you are standing behind is an air pollution certification.
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Granted their are idiots that will plunk down $300.00 and then render it usless with a drill motor. To each his own. They deserve the ticket.
You do not have to be loud to have good sound quality. There is difference
Just like being loud does not mean you have more power or are going faster.
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The majority of officers either ride, appreciate a nice machine, or are apathetic to loud pipes, however, even they (me) can't stand having our noses rubbed it - if you're going to be an idiot, you're chances of being contacted go up exponentially. There' a time and place fo everything. Just don't be stupid about it and you should be fine.
Like with many things, it's always a few knuckleheads that screw it up for the rest of us. Yes, I am an officer of 26 years and have owned many Harleys over the past 30 years, and all with illegal pipes. I have never been stopped once, anywhere. Just a matter of using good discretion.
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Last edited by VsTheWorld; Jul 27, 2010 at 09:06 AM.
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True, but all that means is that at some time these parts met EPA standards. It doesn't potect you if they are modified or have become louder through use. If they emmit noise that's louder than state or federal regs they are now illegal - same with cars, etc.
The majority of officers either ride, appreciate a nice machine, or are apathetic to loud pipes, however, even they (me) can't stand having our noses rubbed it - if you're going to be an idiot, you're chances of being contacted go up exponentially. There' a time and place fo everything. Just don't be stupid about it and you should be fine.
Like with many things, it's always a few knuckleheads that screw it up for the rest of us. Yes, I am an officer of 26 years and have owned many Harleys over the past 30 years, and all with illegal pipes. I have never been stopped once, anywhere. Just a matter of using good discretion.
The majority of officers either ride, appreciate a nice machine, or are apathetic to loud pipes, however, even they (me) can't stand having our noses rubbed it - if you're going to be an idiot, you're chances of being contacted go up exponentially. There' a time and place fo everything. Just don't be stupid about it and you should be fine.
Like with many things, it's always a few knuckleheads that screw it up for the rest of us. Yes, I am an officer of 26 years and have owned many Harleys over the past 30 years, and all with illegal pipes. I have never been stopped once, anywhere. Just a matter of using good discretion.
thats the point - just like a DOT helmet that someone has flattened the cushion with a baseball bat... just b/c the label says it was legal doesn't mean you cant get a ticket now
lots of cars were legal coming off the lot brand new, but then through age/abuse/lack of maintenance are no longer legal - so don't think that if a stock muffler is stamped as DOT compliant that its some sort of trump card if an officer wants to cite you for it when the noise meter says its illegal - maintaining your ride is your responsibility
lots of cars were legal coming off the lot brand new, but then through age/abuse/lack of maintenance are no longer legal - so don't think that if a stock muffler is stamped as DOT compliant that its some sort of trump card if an officer wants to cite you for it when the noise meter says its illegal - maintaining your ride is your responsibility