I did read the whole description, the fact that you went to the trouble to put it there under both bikes was not lost on me. "50 state legal with the EPA stamp" don't mean **** to how loud the pipe is. It's merely a certification that it's a legal modification on a pollution controlled vehicle nothing more. So if you do get pulled over because LEO thinks your just a bit too loud he won't care if you think it's all good. I wasn't pegging you as running with the "too loud crew" and it's all well and good that you are a law abiding responsible citizen, but it doesn't doesn't matter. If someone else thinks your bike is too loud then it's too loud and when you automatically get thrown into the mix...Who's going to tell you your bike's too loud??

 

No offense but you have no clue. EPA is the governing body for noise polution. The slip ons are stamped with db rating that matches the motor.

 

No offense but I do have a clue... I've been modding cars and bikes for a long long time and while the EPA does govern noise pollution. The cert that you are standing behind is an air pollution certification.

 

Not attacking so enlighten me if I'm out to lunch.... I don't live in Sunny California.

 

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UHH-----If you modify a EPA approved slip on than it is not EPA approved anymore.

Granted their are idiots that will plunk down $300.00 and then render it usless with a drill motor. To each his own. They deserve the ticket.

You do not have to be loud to have good sound quality. There is difference

Just like being loud does not mean you have more power or are going faster.

 

I just commented on that news story...I wonder if it will make it to print..

and what VS said is it.....hear one obnoxious ******* and label everyone else with the same pen.

 

True, but all that means is that at some time these parts met EPA standards. It doesn't potect you if they are modified or have become louder through use. If they emmit noise that's louder than state or federal regs they are now illegal - same with cars, etc.

The majority of officers either ride, appreciate a nice machine, or are apathetic to loud pipes, however, even they (me) can't stand having our noses rubbed it - if you're going to be an idiot, you're chances of being contacted go up exponentially. There' a time and place fo everything. Just don't be stupid about it and you should be fine.

Like with many things, it's always a few knuckleheads that screw it up for the rest of us. Yes, I am an officer of 26 years and have owned many Harleys over the past 30 years, and all with illegal pipes. I have never been stopped once, anywhere. Just a matter of using good discretion.

 

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Again this is a way over baked topic. You are missing the point , given any product will degrade and will need maintenance relative to compliance, you are correct 100%. I chose a slip on that is EPA compliant. EPA is the governing body not DOT. Because from the start I wanted to be in compliance. The point is and I restate the cause of the these laws are the mis-use of any compliant and non compliant products.