HD ban on internet sales halted
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Since it was brought up, the RD350 lived on rpm's. Trying to enter the on ramp ramp wth mine way back when went from 6th to third to get into the traffic flow. Yep lot's of rpm's!
If MOCO were smart they would develop a strong IT dept at the home offices for electronic communication.
If MOCO were smart they would develop a strong IT dept at the home offices for electronic communication.
#12
i just don't understand
MoCo got their price for the parts when the dealer bought them, what the hell does it matter to them?
a dealer has the right to set his price to the level of profit he needs and is willing to take.....or not
if the dealer moves more product, the MOCO sells more parts
the dealer is the one taking the hit
MoCo got their price for the parts when the dealer bought them, what the hell does it matter to them?
a dealer has the right to set his price to the level of profit he needs and is willing to take.....or not
if the dealer moves more product, the MOCO sells more parts
the dealer is the one taking the hit
The MoCo is just (I'm sure) reacting to dealerships who are probably complaining that other dealers are using their internet sales to take business from their territory. Yes, I know about competition being healthy, and the internet is here to stay, and price your stuff right to begin with, blah blah blah...all I'm saying is that the MoCo is most likely being inundated with complaints from it's dealers about these internet sales cutting into their bottom line....and since we're a franchise we have territory rights...please do something about it.
It all smacks of internal squabbling to me...the MoCo and it's dealers....and the MoCo makes a stupid attempt to do something about it....and one of the big internet dealers says no......
Boils down to dealers unwilling to cut a discount or work with customers. Then the customer goes online and orders from another dealer who IS willing to cut a discount. So, the first dealer gets all butthurt and starts crying to the MoCo about the internet dealer invading their territory.
Well too bad dealer #1....get with the current trend and stop being a phallus....offer some discounts, compete....or die.
#13
Yes it is only temporary. It is not the end. In cases like this the judge stays the issue until the courts decides. It has no bearing on which way the court rules. It just keeps the issue on hold until the court decides.
#15
When you have a large company and offer franchises, you have to (or should) offer some sort of territory protection for your franchises. For example, why would I spend the money to open a Subway sammy shop if Subway will allow another dude to open one down the street and compete with me? (yeah, I know it happened)
The MoCo is just (I'm sure) reacting to dealerships who are probably complaining that other dealers are using their internet sales to take business from their territory. Yes, I know about competition being healthy, and the internet is here to stay, and price your stuff right to begin with, blah blah blah...all I'm saying is that the MoCo is most likely being inundated with complaints from it's dealers about these internet sales cutting into their bottom line....and since we're a franchise we have territory rights...please do something about it.
It all smacks of internal squabbling to me...the MoCo and it's dealers....and the MoCo makes a stupid attempt to do something about it....and one of the big internet dealers says no......
Boils down to dealers unwilling to cut a discount or work with customers. Then the customer goes online and orders from another dealer who IS willing to cut a discount. So, the first dealer gets all butthurt and starts crying to the MoCo about the internet dealer invading their territory.
Well too bad dealer #1....get with the current trend and stop being a phallus....offer some discounts, compete....or die.
The MoCo is just (I'm sure) reacting to dealerships who are probably complaining that other dealers are using their internet sales to take business from their territory. Yes, I know about competition being healthy, and the internet is here to stay, and price your stuff right to begin with, blah blah blah...all I'm saying is that the MoCo is most likely being inundated with complaints from it's dealers about these internet sales cutting into their bottom line....and since we're a franchise we have territory rights...please do something about it.
It all smacks of internal squabbling to me...the MoCo and it's dealers....and the MoCo makes a stupid attempt to do something about it....and one of the big internet dealers says no......
Boils down to dealers unwilling to cut a discount or work with customers. Then the customer goes online and orders from another dealer who IS willing to cut a discount. So, the first dealer gets all butthurt and starts crying to the MoCo about the internet dealer invading their territory.
Well too bad dealer #1....get with the current trend and stop being a phallus....offer some discounts, compete....or die.
I understand about protected territories but that is brick and mortar times.
you cannot stop (regulate) commerce by not allowing business to be conducted via the internet.
as you said, they should get with the program or whither away.The dealers should think growth.....and that comes from outside their protected territory
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PS: loved my little RD350. Faster than any Norton or Harley.
#18
+1 You are exactly right...dealers could develop better personal relationships with their customers but in the end they are oversold and there are just too many of them to be competitive. Harley can only resist internet global business as it is here to stay and they will lose since they will never innovate. I mean there is no email address for HD customer service. They will never attract enough young customers unless they get with the times.
#19
Yeah, but it ends up being price fixing which violates anti-trust laws....works in Canada as they have 1 dealer who controls everything....so how would you like to get stabbed for another 25% because if they could the MoCo would smile and charge you as much as possible and tell you "tough crap".