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Clayvis 02-23-2014 08:45 PM

Help! What's the secret?
 
So I'm starting my cam install project (2007 Fatboy). Figure I will get it in 6th gear before I start tearing parts off. Start it up-try shifting to higher gear....NO DICE ... won't go past 2nd. So I jack the rear wheel off the ground, but still no luck. It will go from neutral to 2nd, and that's it. Even tried riding it up the driveway and shifting, but ran out of room in 2nd...Do I need to ride around the block and upshift when I get close to home and coast? What am I missing here?

upflying 02-23-2014 09:19 PM

I shift a static, engine off bike by sitting on it and rocking it back and forth against the drivetrain lash.

HooliganCycles 02-23-2014 10:42 PM

Put the rear wheel in the air, and while up shifting spin the wheel

Clayvis 02-24-2014 07:26 AM

Thanks guys. I did the rocking thing and it worked. Still not sure I am in 6th gear since the "6" light won't light up. Maybe the bike has to be moving for this? Anyway hopefully I am in a high enough gear to spin the engine over with the spark plugs out...Will find out tonight.

NSCoyote 02-24-2014 08:43 AM

spin the wheel while shifting

HooliganCycles 02-24-2014 10:56 AM

Why not just count how many times you shift to know what gear your in, i hope this doesnt sound rude, but if you need a light to tell you your in 6th gear you may want to reconsider the task of a cam job on your own. Again, not meaning to be offensive

hobobiker 02-24-2014 11:05 AM

Your cam job is going to require you to have the rear wheel lifted anyway so you can rotate the motor around and get the lifter on the heel of the cam (unless you're removing the top end and re-using the stock pushrods), so it would be best to find a small jack to use under the rear of the bike. Unless you do it different than many of us, you will also be lowering the bike to keep the engine from turning while you torque the crank and pinion bolts (unless you buy or make a special locking tool for the job).

In short, jack the rear tire up and rotate the rear wheel forward till it 'catches'. Pull the shift lever up. Repeat until the shift lever no longer goes into another gear.

Good luck with the cam job. It's not hard, but follow the service manual very closely and don't overtorque the bolts - especially the cam plate bolt #4.

Clayvis 02-24-2014 01:03 PM

[QUOTE=HooliganCycles;12363108]Why not just count how many times you shift to know what gear your in, i hope this doesnt sound rude, but if you need a light to tell you your in 6th gear you may want to reconsider the task of a cam job on your own. Again, not meaning to be offensive.

Haha, no offense taken. I know this whole post sounded pretty stupid....It was late, I was tired, the dog ate my homework... just not thinking straight. I am all good now...

I've been wrenching a looong time, but still do some dumb $*%& now and then. I have read my FSM several times, and researched the cam swap extensively. I don't expect any major problems as long as I can keep the fog out of my brain. Gonna relax and have a beer tonight before starting....

Tech Slap 02-24-2014 01:15 PM

while torqueing the oil pump, rotate the motor so the gerators sync themselves...good luck...

Clayvis 02-24-2014 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Tech Slap (Post 12363715)
while torqueing the oil pump, rotate the motor so the gerators sync themselves...good luck...

Yeah, that's what the FSM says. So I take this to mean leave the bolts holding the oil pump finger tight, then rotate the motor a few times, then tighten to spec. Does that sound right?

I have to wonder why the you tube videos show guys leaving the oil pump attached to the cam plate and not doing this alignment procedure. Looks like something they would do at my local $tealership...cutting corners!


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