Oil change engine start up knock
#11
Not a fan of bumping the starter to pressure up the system. Oil the filter as much as possible. Start the bike while letting it idle at its cold idle mark should not cause excessive wear. While the bike oil pressure comes up. That is what your dealers mechanic would do.
#12
As mentioned by several, fill your filter with oil and let it set for several minutes. Yes you will lose a little oil but enough will stay in the filter to keep the pump from having to fill the dry filter after startup.
#13
I fill 2/3 of it.
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I would think that an oil saturated element could make it more difficult for air to pass through. Also, I believe a wet oil filter could tend to trap air bubbles, which may require more time under pressure to eliminate them. Having a wet element in a partially filled filter, is not a good idea IMHO.
#15
Take a 1 liter empty plastic soda bottle cut off the bottom. It fits perfectly around the oil filter, and can be used to remove/install the new one without getting oil all over the place.
Make sure you keep the bottle cap on. Daaaa
Make sure you keep the bottle cap on. Daaaa
#16
When you fill your filter before installing it...
I would think that an oil saturated element could make it more difficult for air to pass through. Also, I believe a wet oil filter could tend to trap air bubbles, which may require more time under pressure to eliminate them. Having a wet element in a partially filled filter, is not a good idea IMHO.
I would think that an oil saturated element could make it more difficult for air to pass through. Also, I believe a wet oil filter could tend to trap air bubbles, which may require more time under pressure to eliminate them. Having a wet element in a partially filled filter, is not a good idea IMHO.
Your thoughts about trapped air bubbles causing the oil to take more time sounds like it does have merrit.
With my 2007 96 inch I never once heard a knocking sound after start up when I filled the oil filter during an oil change. If it is normal to hear the knocking, I will still be uneasy listening to something I was always taught to hope to never hear.
#18
Update:
I had the 1000 mile service done today and had the tech let me listen to the start up after the oil was changed. The engine started with only a slight tappet tick sound opposed to the loud knocking noise I heard during the 500 mile oil change. The tech did fill the oil filter prior to installing it. The tech did state he believes that a cylinder was on the compression stroke when I started it during the 500 mile oil change which produced a louder than usual tappet tick noise. Hopefully I won't ever hear that loud knock again during an after oil change start up. Time will tell.
I had the 1000 mile service done today and had the tech let me listen to the start up after the oil was changed. The engine started with only a slight tappet tick sound opposed to the loud knocking noise I heard during the 500 mile oil change. The tech did fill the oil filter prior to installing it. The tech did state he believes that a cylinder was on the compression stroke when I started it during the 500 mile oil change which produced a louder than usual tappet tick noise. Hopefully I won't ever hear that loud knock again during an after oil change start up. Time will tell.
#19
My manual says fill the filter with 4oz. Funny thing is it says to add the oil to the filter for the same reason the people say to not add it say.
I go with the manual. I have heard other bikes start with a dry filter. The air people are worried about with a partialy filled filter, well there will be even more air if you install it dry.......derr.
I go with the manual. I have heard other bikes start with a dry filter. The air people are worried about with a partialy filled filter, well there will be even more air if you install it dry.......derr.
#20
My Deuce has 36K & I have changed the oil 9 times. During those times I have prefilled the filter except for a couple times. I disconnect the plugs (not grounded, never a problem with ECM bty), crank it until oil light goes out.
I can tell you for a fact that when the filter was dry it took about 6 seconds longer for it to go out. That being said, in the great scheme of things I don't think it will make any difference at all in engine longevity, but I do it anyway, gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.
I can tell you for a fact that when the filter was dry it took about 6 seconds longer for it to go out. That being said, in the great scheme of things I don't think it will make any difference at all in engine longevity, but I do it anyway, gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling.