Sounds like we have a new convert.

what's holding me back from ordering is I do not know anything about the SEST upgrade thing. Is it even necessary to concern myself with? Or do I justbuy the TTS and cables and forget everything about the SESTP?

You would be better off starting from scratch. Call Doc and get'r ordered.

ok last question about this.. well til it comes in.. LOL

do I need both the serial and the USB cables?

The dongle cable from the VCI (plastic box) to the bike is the same. Be smart and purchase the USB cable that TTS sells. Many guys try a generic and have no issues, it's the other ones that get the wrong USB to serial that worries me. Some just don't work right.

.... an no, it won't be your last question but once you get the hang of it after a trial or two you will see that it's a piece of cake.

Todd, I did get the files to open. Try saving them to a memory stick and then open from there. I agree with the TTS being a much more user friendly device to use than the SESPT but it is not the tuning device, but the "tuner" that is lacking here. I cannot tell if your bike was smarttuned or conventionally tuned, but looking at the afr table in the maps suggest smarttune. It is your rear cylinder that is causing the issue. Look at the attached graph of the ve table and you can see the area that is not right. The issue is caused by your exhaust. There is a trick to tuning this area that will smooth out the table. Not Doc's trick as that is just to eliminate the torque dip and remember to do that a little at a time. Another thing that bothers me is how the "tuner" set up the throttle progessivity table, it should not be maxxed out like this (second pic). I'll send you more in an email.

Lonewolf176, you are correct. I was educated on the different tuning methods by Doc so yes it was a smarttune and I know this because the dyno my tuner was using, the braking function doesn't work right so it's disabled. So no load testing was done, and step-method of tuning was not done consequently either.

Also, when I went down to the local HD dealer I never use, apparently "I need the latest version of SE Pro Super Tuner" means ok I'll sell you the latest version we have on the shelf; it may not be the latest version software, but it's the latest we have on the shelf. It wasn't the correct version and I wasted $30 as they wouldn't take it back because it was opened. Now I know why I never use them but instead drive a little further out of my way to deal with the one that treats me right. So I was finally able to get them opened.

The throttle progressivity tables are maxed out to get rid of the "throttle lag" on the TBW bikes. Being maxed out won't hurt a thing, just makes the throttle response instant instead of delayed.

I do increase them to "tighten up" the feel. I adjust them so I can have the throttle blade open 100% by 2500 at wot. I was taught and have found that too much will just make it too sensitive at lower tp's.

Can you elaborate on this?