This article was the first where I saw the PA and Street Fighter would be released for the 2020 Model year. I guess we shall see this summer at the dealer show
This article was the first where I saw the PA and Street Fighter would be released for the 2020 Model year. I guess we shall see this summer at the dealer show
This is a classic case of confusion that is always kicked around in the auto industry news...when dates get quoted it is unknown if it refers to the calendar year or model year. If you notice, when discussing future autos there is always a 'CY' or 'MY' in the press release. When Harley introduced the 'new models' back in July 2018 it was only the Livewire that was specifically targeted for August 2019 release as a 2020 model. The rest (Street Fighter and Pan America) were "coming for 2020." It was not clear if that was 2020 MY or 2020 CY. We shall find out in July 2019 I suppose!
I have been expecting them to be calendar year 2020, which would make them model year 2021 likely.
It may or not make a difference, but the Harley EPA Consent Decree could theoretically be terminated after four years if Harley is found to live up to all their obligations. So it's possible that the Consent Decree won't apply to 2021 or later models, we will have to see.
I have been expecting them to be calendar year 2020, which would make them model year 2021 likely.
It may or not make a difference, but the Harley EPA Consent Decree could theoretically be terminated after four years if Harley is found to live up to all their obligations. So it's possible that the Consent Decree won't apply to 2021 or later models, we will have to see.
The Harley web site says "Coming In 2020" I take that as sometime in calendar year 2020. Wouldn't be surprised it if was later in 2020 as a 2021 model year. OR in other words about a year and a half from now.
Launching in 2020 is the first Harley-Davidson=left® adventure touring motorcycle, the Pan America™ 1250cc.
Another new competitor is launching now...the Moto Guzzi V85TT. 90 degree v-twin mounted longitudinally, 853cc, 80 HP, and 80 Nm (love the mix of units; this is 59 ft-lbs - sounds like a high RPM runner to make the power). No word on weight or seat height that I can find. $11,990 for the base and $12,990 for the adventure version. Has a shaft final drive. This 'class' of bike is getting rather crowded in the market.
The list of USA dealers is pretty small though. This is one of those situations where if they sell 4 more bikes this year they will be able to advertise 'record % sales growth'...
Another new competitor is launching now...the Moto Guzzi V85TT. 90 degree v-twin mounted longitudinally, 853cc, 80 HP, and 80 Nm (love the mix of units; this is 59 ft-lbs - sounds like a high RPM runner to make the power). No word on weight or seat height that I can find. $11,990 for the base and $12,990 for the adventure version. Has a shaft final drive. This 'class' of bike is getting rather crowded in the market.
The list of USA dealers is pretty small though. This is one of those situations where if they sell 4 more bikes this year they will be able to advertise 'record % sales growth'...
As someone whom has 2 Triumph Tiger 800's in the garage, I find it interesting that some desire the 1200 Tiger shaft over the simple chain. Sure the Tiger 1200 is a beast. Who wants to ride a beast offroad? Not many. Especially if it becomes single track, then the weight and vulnerability of the shaft come into question rather quickly.
What I see happening is riders buy the 800, then "trade up" to the 1200, then discover the shaftdrive short comings, then go back to the "tried and true" 800 chain system. So, after 70,000 miles (45XXX & 25,XXX,) I have yet to replace a chain, nor sprockets (But, I keep checking them.) Both bike chains are still ready for service, anytime, anywhere. That's another thing...servicing a chain/sprockets can be done easily at most any indie across our Fruited Plain. Have a problem with a shaft? You're talking 2 grand and a 3-6 week wait for parts. Not very convenient when touring across that "Fruited Plain..."
As someone whom has 2 Triumph Tiger 800's in the garage, I find it interesting that some desire the 1200 Tiger shaft over the simple chain. Sure the Tiger 1200 is a beast. Who wants to ride a beast offroad? Not many. Especially if it becomes single track, then the weight and vulnerability of the shaft come into question rather quickly.
What I see happening is riders buy the 800, then "trade up" to the 1200, then discover the shaftdrive short comings, then go back to the "tried and true" 800 chain system. So, after 70,000 miles (45XXX & 25,XXX,) I have yet to replace a chain, nor sprockets (But, I keep checking them.) Both bike chains are still ready for service, anytime, anywhere. That's another thing...servicing a chain/sprockets can be done easily at most any indie across our Fruited Plain. Have a problem with a shaft? You're talking 2 grand and a 3-6 week wait for parts. Not very convenient when touring across that "Fruited Plain..."
I don't think many folks do ride big adventure rigs off road (some do, for sure...but a vast minority). Most like the shaft drive for on-road road touring.
Not sure about Triumphs shaft drive endurance, but Yamaha's is pretty nuke-proof. A lot of people rack up a lot of miles on them between the FJR1300 and the Super Tenere (same final drive on both models).
02-13-2019, 08:44 AM
