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Old 09-19-2021, 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mac daddy 103
Well guys, for now I’m going to stick with the SE CAM but I will be upgrading the oil pump very soon, also going to change the cam bearing. I am still going to change the but that will be my winter project. Now I’m looking for cam bearing remove/ install tool
Why? Some reason you’re wanting to change the bearing and not the cam at this point? That, to me, is a curious decision.

If you’re staying with the same cam, it makes sense to me to stay with the same bearing until you change the, both out. Hell, you’re not even planning to change out the cam plate.

For the bearing tool, you can get them off of eBay. I got one, and will know soon enough whether it was worth the price or whether I should have popped for the Jim’s tool. I’m hoping it serves the purpose one time and I’ll be happy.
 
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Old 09-19-2021, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dave the welder
My RG with power vision, RS468 and stock exhaust makes 110 HP and 120 torque...
Nice numbers.
That's the combo I just bought. But I got the Sidewinder 2-1 header.
 
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Originally Posted by Quik
Just imagine what it would do with a good cam!
Actually for the money I think it is a good cam. That's why I chose it
 
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Old 09-19-2021, 08:06 PM
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Actually for the money I think it is a good cam. That's why I chose it
Was just bustin your chops, as long as you’re happy with it that’s all that matters.
 
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Originally Posted by TracerBullet
Actually for the money I think it is a good cam. That's why I chose it
Are the SE cams cheaper than the aftermarket? I just always assumed they would cost more, like everything else stamped with a bar and shield
 
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Old 09-23-2021, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Crispy
Any reason you're not considering the 22xe?
Not sure but I did call fuel Moto and for my type of riding they recommended the 22X.
 
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Originally Posted by dave the welder
My RG with power vision, RS468 and stock exhaust makes 110 HP and 120 torque...
I keep hearing good things on this Cam, how are you liking the Torque from the get go?
 
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Old 09-23-2021, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by NorthWestern
Are the SE cams cheaper than the aftermarket? I just always assumed they would cost more, like everything else stamped with a bar and shield
No they're not cheaper. I had the SE torque cam put in my new bike soon after trading. I got a discount on parts and labor, but dont remember what the exact cost of the cam alone was. But I'm positive it wasn't cheaper.

I was extremely happy with my S&S 475c cam. Now with the SE cam, I'm still debating on going back to the S&S.
 

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Originally Posted by Mac daddy 103
I keep hearing good things on this Cam, how are you liking the Torque from the get go?
Here, this will help you.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...m-testing.html

I've been running the RS468 in a 107 since we did the cam testing. It was the second best cam for low end torque, the TTS 100 was the best. If you really lug it, below 1500 in 3rd gear or higher, it can start stuttering. The only time I've done that is coming to a stop light and having it turn green when I wasn't paying attention to rpm and the gear I was in. Down shifting solved the problem.
 

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Originally Posted by tunaman

Why? Some reason you’re wanting to change the bearing and not the cam at this point? That, to me, is a curious decision.

Yes, there is a reason to change that bearing even with the same cam...

The M8 engine uses the same inner cam bearing that the Twin Cam's used, #9215. That is an INA brand, caged bearing.

The earlier version of that bearing (B-148 equivalent), used in the early 88" twin cams had a few issues. The newer version (B-168 equivalent), from 2007+ model years, didn't have the same problems as the older version. During the time of the bearing issues, however, many replaced that caged inner cam bearing, with a better Torrington captive-needle bearing. The better Torrington bearing became a staple for a "while you are in there" change, anytime people went into their cam chests... Torrington was bought out by Koyo, so the new "go to" inner cam bearings are the Koyo B-148 or B-168, based on engine application.

I just put tensioner pads on a 2001 Twin Cam that I recently purchased. I don't put a lot of miles on it, so I just did the Cyco tensioner pad shoes, rather than the entire cam plate, with cams, upgrade.... I also changed out the inner cam bearings at that time... "while I was in there"...

Here is a comparison of the OEM INA brand bearing to the the Koyo (then Torrington) bearing.......

 

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