A photo of the install instructions.
The extra travel, it seems that push rods will need an extra few flats.
Seems like SE M8 Adjustable pushrods, which IIRC are 24TPI, the instructions on Feuling Full Travel Lifters is 2.5 turns(2.39), These will be 3 turns instead.
3 turns .042=.126, slightly above 1.20, significantly below .140.
Might make things with adjusting pushrods just a tad bit easier.
There are only two places in the US that makes lifters and both of them have Johnson in their name. One stole from the other to start up and produced inferior lifters and called them the same lifter. The original Johnson and the one that made them for Harley from '99 - '01 is now owned by Topline Automotive and the one most of that use this lifter designed for Harleys buy from suppliers like WFO Larry here or AMS.
Woods, Feuling, S&S....none of these make their own lifters. One of the Johnson's does or they are made overseas.
They contract to have one of the manufacturers make them according to their specs.
For what it’s worth I wanted the the woods lifters (Alfa) when I did my cam job at the end of 2021 but they were out of stock. Went with S&s premiums and they are very quiet as they were in the two other Harley’s I ran them in.
Last edited by Durham man; 08-19-2023 at 02:56 PM.
Yes woods states on there site top line automotive Johnson makes the lifters
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Have at it.
If it's as quiet as claimed it's because it's likely made with the larger oil reservoir, bigger plunger, and tighter ball seat the Hylift 2313 has been using for years. Do I dare even ask the cost of these woods lifters?
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Have at it.
If it's as quiet as claimed it's because it's likely made with the larger oil reservoir, bigger plunger, and tighter ball seat the Hylift 2313 has been using for years. Do I dare even ask the cost of these woods lifters?
about $300. Look out here come the comp cam thunder series guys to say your getting shafted!
Last edited by Durham man; 08-19-2023 at 02:50 PM.
If you gave me a set of Woods lifters I'd sell them to a sucker and use something else. Even if they're made in the same plant, Bob's not getting a cut from MY pocket
If you gave me a set of Woods lifters I'd sell them to a sucker and use something else. Even if they're made in the same plant, Bob's not getting a cut from MY pocket
Uh oh. Another drama lore tidbit I've not heard?
Ah well, FM likes em, they're fuelpass eligable, I'm getting a Wood cam anyways. Knight Prowler Cam, Knight Prowler Lifter.
Can't be helped.
They look like a good piece of hardware to overbuild an engine.
Looks interesting and low risk. Needed to get some new lifters for the new cam, latest and greatest stuff at a price that's reasonable to me for giving my bike that extra bump in longevity and durability.
about $300. Look out here come the comp cam thunder series guys to say your getting shafted!
Well I'm not one of them. There's a reason those comp cam lifters are cheap. But $300 you're still paying for Woods to spec a lifter from Topline Hylift Johnson when you could buy the 2313SE for less and know you're getting a lifter designed specifically for Harley to be quiet.. In fact this Hicks guy that designed it and later stole from Hylift Johnson tried to sell the rights to Delphi so they could pruduce.a lifter for Harley that wasn't junk but Delphi wanted the whole company and lost it to Topline. This is why Harleys have junk noisy lifters to this day.
Here's a read on the sorted story and what makes the 2313 lifter what it is. I would want to know if Topline is using this same bigger plunger/valve body and the tighter ball/seat from the mustang lifter in this woods lifter. Otherwise it's just another overpriced so called premium lifter. Even it does, the 2313SE is cheaper eliminating the middle man and buying Topline's lifter rather than one they manufacture for Woods or anyone else that marks it up. In this case one with questionable durability due to the "no needle bearings" design.
Btw, this lifter surfaced in another forum like 6 months ago and the general consensus was no thanks.
Doesn't surprise me the Woods Fanboys here jump on this latest gimmick tho. Afterall their overpriced alpha directionals were never a big hit.
Uh oh. Another drama lore tidbit I've not heard?
Ah well, FM likes em, they're fuelpass eligable, I'm getting a Wood cam anyways. Knight Prowler Cam, Knight Prowler Lifter.
Can't be helped.
They look like a good piece of hardware to overbuild an engine.
Looks interesting and low risk. Needed to get some new lifters for the new cam, latest and greatest stuff at a price that's reasonable to me for giving my bike that extra bump in longevity and durability.
Oops, my bad...and Fangirls. Heaven forbid I leave out little miss FM postergirl.
08-19-2023, 01:04 AM
