Thoughts on these new woods plantinum lifters ?
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Reporting back here now that I have several hundred miles including 100miles in a day done.
The Lifter Tapping issue was completely resolved with these lifters.
The claim they are quiet holds up. These are pretty quiet lifters and clickyclacky sounds I heard easily with stock lifters and Feuling Lifters are noticably quieter. Quit enough that I am noticing some different sounds I have not heard before.
They are noisy on start up but once bike starts gets to its 900rpm idle there's pretty minimal clickclacky sounds. The engine whir is more noticeable now, to the point where I noticed a new sound coming from the exhaust/transmission area and realizing it's always been there I just never heard it because engine clatter was masking it.
I am appreciating the quieter valvetrain clatter. But sadly it doesn't reduce any of that sewing machine whirr.
All in All I like the idea of these lifters. I like how much easier 3 turns over 2 1/2 was when putting the pushrods back in(SE Pushrods), and they pumped up super easily with my little vacuum jar sealer robot. The fact that if one fails I wont be sending metal **** through my engine is a HUGE pro in my book. I was terrified of that happening with the Feuling lifters when one started tapping.
These will be my go too recommended lifter now so long as no major (systemic)issue pops up with them in the future. I wish these had been out when I swapped my oil pump.
I'm glad I went with these over the Feuling RACE Lifters or those new EVO Lifters from CompCams.
The Lifter Tapping issue was completely resolved with these lifters.
The claim they are quiet holds up. These are pretty quiet lifters and clickyclacky sounds I heard easily with stock lifters and Feuling Lifters are noticably quieter. Quit enough that I am noticing some different sounds I have not heard before.
They are noisy on start up but once bike starts gets to its 900rpm idle there's pretty minimal clickclacky sounds. The engine whir is more noticeable now, to the point where I noticed a new sound coming from the exhaust/transmission area and realizing it's always been there I just never heard it because engine clatter was masking it.
I am appreciating the quieter valvetrain clatter. But sadly it doesn't reduce any of that sewing machine whirr.
All in All I like the idea of these lifters. I like how much easier 3 turns over 2 1/2 was when putting the pushrods back in(SE Pushrods), and they pumped up super easily with my little vacuum jar sealer robot. The fact that if one fails I wont be sending metal **** through my engine is a HUGE pro in my book. I was terrified of that happening with the Feuling lifters when one started tapping.
These will be my go too recommended lifter now so long as no major (systemic)issue pops up with them in the future. I wish these had been out when I swapped my oil pump.
I'm glad I went with these over the Feuling RACE Lifters or those new EVO Lifters from CompCams.
Last edited by FranBunnyFFXII; 05-29-2024 at 06:14 PM.
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Most of the valvetrain clacking stopped when i.changed to premium engine oil.
I couldn't tell any difference in noise between stock cam and TTS-100 torque cam or stock lifters and V-Thunder (Comp Cam) lifters.
The primary sounds quieter with the Cycle Rama billet compensator ramp, though. I hear the engine whir more too. Thinking it's the drive chain.
I couldn't tell any difference in noise between stock cam and TTS-100 torque cam or stock lifters and V-Thunder (Comp Cam) lifters.
The primary sounds quieter with the Cycle Rama billet compensator ramp, though. I hear the engine whir more too. Thinking it's the drive chain.
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Reporting back here now that I have several hundred miles including 100miles in a day done.
The Lifter Tapping issue was completely resolved with these lifters.
The claim they are quiet holds up. These are pretty quiet lifters and clickyclacky sounds I heard easily with stock lifters and Feuling Lifters are noticably quieter. Quit enough that I am noticing some different sounds I have not heard before.
They are noisy on start up but once bike starts gets to its 900rpm idle there's pretty minimal clickclacky sounds. The engine whir is more noticeable now, to the point where I noticed a new sound coming from the exhaust/transmission area and realizing it's always been there I just never heard it because engine clatter was masking it.
I am appreciating the quieter valvetrain clatter. But sadly it doesn't reduce any of that sewing machine whirr.
All in All I like the idea of these lifters. I like how much easier 3 turns over 2 1/2 was when putting the pushrods back in(SE Pushrods), and they pumped up super easily with my little vacuum jar sealer robot. The fact that if one fails I wont be sending metal **** through my engine is a HUGE pro in my book. I was terrified of that happening with the Feuling lifters when one started tapping.
These will be my go too recommended lifter now so long as no major (systemic)issue pops up with them in the future. I wish these had been out when I swapped my oil pump.
I'm glad I went with these over the Feuling RACE Lifters or those new EVO Lifters from CompCams.
The Lifter Tapping issue was completely resolved with these lifters.
The claim they are quiet holds up. These are pretty quiet lifters and clickyclacky sounds I heard easily with stock lifters and Feuling Lifters are noticably quieter. Quit enough that I am noticing some different sounds I have not heard before.
They are noisy on start up but once bike starts gets to its 900rpm idle there's pretty minimal clickclacky sounds. The engine whir is more noticeable now, to the point where I noticed a new sound coming from the exhaust/transmission area and realizing it's always been there I just never heard it because engine clatter was masking it.
I am appreciating the quieter valvetrain clatter. But sadly it doesn't reduce any of that sewing machine whirr.
All in All I like the idea of these lifters. I like how much easier 3 turns over 2 1/2 was when putting the pushrods back in(SE Pushrods), and they pumped up super easily with my little vacuum jar sealer robot. The fact that if one fails I wont be sending metal **** through my engine is a HUGE pro in my book. I was terrified of that happening with the Feuling lifters when one started tapping.
These will be my go too recommended lifter now so long as no major (systemic)issue pops up with them in the future. I wish these had been out when I swapped my oil pump.
I'm glad I went with these over the Feuling RACE Lifters or those new EVO Lifters from CompCams.
Did you run 3 or 4 turns? I read a Fuelmoto post they run the woods lifters to 4 turns to get the preload in the last third of the plunger travel. It was in another thread that I’m having trouble finding. Thanks
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SE Pushrods are 24Threads per inch.
Instructions denote 24tpi=.042 travel per turn.
The Wood Plat Lifters call for .120 to .140 for preload.
.042/6=.007
.007 x 18= .126 and .007 x 20= .140
So what I did before starting the rod extension was to get to zero lash, then swing wrench on the rod from the nearest flat to match the wrench that was holding the threaded rod. Once they were aligned, then I counted out 3 turns. So every pushrod preload would be at least, .126 but less than .140.
Then to tighten them down, held the rod body wrench and threaded rod wrench even with each other, then jammed the nut down. This made it much easier to handle, and get good torque on the jam nut.
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18 Flats=3 turns.
Each flat is .007 on a 24tpi pushrod like an SE adjustable. So just math it up. Lifter wants between .120 and .140 preload, so 18 to 20 flats is how many you need.
18/6=3. 3 Turns or 18 Flats.
Doing it by math is the same thing just lets you know a head of time how many flats/turns you need to count.
I've heard of Flare Nut wrenches for doing brake fittings and stuff like that but I've not found much of a reason to buy any yet.
My problem has always been trying to finagle around 3 god dammed wrenches at once.
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