1977 FXE cam question
#11
BTW, I was Taught to remove the Condenser and Twist the Advance with Fingers.. tho once I found the "tool" I get more consistent results!!! Especially with the Dyna-S for some reason.
#12
Nothing wrong with static, one has to just know there is a little room left for the dynamics.
Which way that falls is dont know.
In the end, i keep running it all ahead until I get the tinkles and start back off.
The factory setting is for factory engine anyway, and not much to do with a modded engine.
Which way that falls is dont know.
In the end, i keep running it all ahead until I get the tinkles and start back off.
The factory setting is for factory engine anyway, and not much to do with a modded engine.
#13
I think at this point- it may be time to open up the cam cover to have a look at the cam. Unless you are taking the cam out- you dont have to mess with the tappets.
take a look at the timing marks - see if they line up.
some cams (ie crane and others) had an option to press the stock cam gear on yourself- someone could have retarded or advanced the timing there.
you could always go old school and use a cam timing wheel and see if it matches the cams specs.
take a look at the timing marks - see if they line up.
some cams (ie crane and others) had an option to press the stock cam gear on yourself- someone could have retarded or advanced the timing there.
you could always go old school and use a cam timing wheel and see if it matches the cams specs.
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#16
try this first
rotate the engine around till you think its on the advance mark front cylinder
with a piece of 3/8 rubber hose put it over the front spark plug hole and blow into it > you should get resistance if not your out of time 180 degrees turn the engine over once around try again
needle nose small vise grips advance the points rotor it wants to turn in a clockwise direction
the advancer with the springs actually comes in clockwise and counterclockwise directions - confirm what way it turns for advance - counterclockwise is for flat side engines as the distributer turns backwards
rotate the engine around till you think its on the advance mark front cylinder
with a piece of 3/8 rubber hose put it over the front spark plug hole and blow into it > you should get resistance if not your out of time 180 degrees turn the engine over once around try again
needle nose small vise grips advance the points rotor it wants to turn in a clockwise direction
the advancer with the springs actually comes in clockwise and counterclockwise directions - confirm what way it turns for advance - counterclockwise is for flat side engines as the distributer turns backwards
#17
Update---I pulled the cam cover and found that the timing marks on the cam, pinion, and breather are all dead- on where they should be. This leaves me scratching my head. The only thing I can think of is this: the motor was rebuilt and a new flywheel set was installed. I'm now wondering if the timing marks on the flywheel may be off (?)
I'll be putting everything back together tomorrow and begin to experiment with setting the timing mark at different places in and around the timing hole. As I had mentioned, I ground out the points plate adjustment grooves by about 1/4" and that brought the points closer to the high point on the lobe, but not close enough to get a test light response. So, once things are back together , more experimentation. I've bounced this off 3 good Harley mechanics i know and they also draw a blank--aside from the possibility that the flywheel marks must be off--ugh! If worse comes to worse, I can grind out the adjustment grooves more to get the points to open on the lobe. It sounds like a band aid but wtf, if nothing else works, that will.
I'll be putting everything back together tomorrow and begin to experiment with setting the timing mark at different places in and around the timing hole. As I had mentioned, I ground out the points plate adjustment grooves by about 1/4" and that brought the points closer to the high point on the lobe, but not close enough to get a test light response. So, once things are back together , more experimentation. I've bounced this off 3 good Harley mechanics i know and they also draw a blank--aside from the possibility that the flywheel marks must be off--ugh! If worse comes to worse, I can grind out the adjustment grooves more to get the points to open on the lobe. It sounds like a band aid but wtf, if nothing else works, that will.
#18
Update---I pulled the cam cover and found that the timing marks on the cam, pinion, and breather are all dead- on where they should be. This leaves me scratching my head. The only thing I can think of is this: the motor was rebuilt and a new flywheel set was installed. I'm now wondering if the timing marks on the flywheel may be off (?)
I'll be putting everything back together tomorrow and begin to experiment with setting the timing mark at different places in and around the timing hole. As I had mentioned, I ground out the points plate adjustment grooves by about 1/4" and that brought the points closer to the high point on the lobe, but not close enough to get a test light response. So, once things are back together , more experimentation. I've bounced this off 3 good Harley mechanics i know and they also draw a blank--aside from the possibility that the flywheel marks must be off--ugh! If worse comes to worse, I can grind out the adjustment grooves more to get the points to open on the lobe. It sounds like a band aid but wtf, if nothing else works, that will.
I'll be putting everything back together tomorrow and begin to experiment with setting the timing mark at different places in and around the timing hole. As I had mentioned, I ground out the points plate adjustment grooves by about 1/4" and that brought the points closer to the high point on the lobe, but not close enough to get a test light response. So, once things are back together , more experimentation. I've bounced this off 3 good Harley mechanics i know and they also draw a blank--aside from the possibility that the flywheel marks must be off--ugh! If worse comes to worse, I can grind out the adjustment grooves more to get the points to open on the lobe. It sounds like a band aid but wtf, if nothing else works, that will.
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Couple things -
Are the advance weights frozen?
are you using the correct marks on the wheels as they have changed through the years
and even that does not mean too much if they were swapped out at some point?
Perhaps wind it up on TDC and roll it backwards and see what shows up for a mark ?
Are the advance weights frozen?
are you using the correct marks on the wheels as they have changed through the years
and even that does not mean too much if they were swapped out at some point?
Perhaps wind it up on TDC and roll it backwards and see what shows up for a mark ?