Mesh motorcycle jackets??
#81
#82
I finally "bit the bullet" and bought a H-D mesh jacket this year. After I had my first "my fault" accident last year (slid off the road and high-sided on a decreasing radius turn), I decided I'm no longer comfortable riding in a t-shirt in hot weather.
I like the H-D jacket pretty well. Only issue is that the armor pads have to be bought separately, which increased the price.
Oh, yeah, the accident; well, I was wearing my leather jacket, 16" engineer boots, gloves, jeans and half helmet. I walked away without a scratch-landed in a pile of leaves.
I like the H-D jacket pretty well. Only issue is that the armor pads have to be bought separately, which increased the price.
Oh, yeah, the accident; well, I was wearing my leather jacket, 16" engineer boots, gloves, jeans and half helmet. I walked away without a scratch-landed in a pile of leaves.
#83
Ya, after reading the posts, I "pulled the trigger" and purchased the gray HD mesh jacket. Like you said, the body armor has to be bought separately. The only thing I don't like is that there is no pocket for a back pad. Sure, I could have purchased any other brand, but stuck with HD. (Sucker for brand loyalty).
#84
Disagree. The mesh keeps the sun off your skin. The mesh allows outstanding air flow, but not as fast as if you were fully exposed. This allows perspiration to evaporate at a slightly slower rate, providing better cooling. And, the perspiration wicks into the mesh, providing further additional cooling effect.
If you try to find research regarding mesh vs vented textile vs perforated leather, you will find that there isn't any. Nobody has done a true, science-based, carefully picked group test. All that is out there is "opinion". And we know about opinions. However, I've done some digging, and this is one of the better articles I've found:
https://www.fix.com/blog/motorcycle-...n-hot-weather/
If you try to find research regarding mesh vs vented textile vs perforated leather, you will find that there isn't any. Nobody has done a true, science-based, carefully picked group test. All that is out there is "opinion". And we know about opinions. However, I've done some digging, and this is one of the better articles I've found:
https://www.fix.com/blog/motorcycle-...n-hot-weather/
http://www.ironbutt.com/ibmagazine/i..._62-66_Hot.pdf
The airflow wicks away your sweat which dehydrates you. Very dangerous wearing mesh when it's over 93 degrees.
#85
Not opinion....
http://www.ironbutt.com/ibmagazine/i..._62-66_Hot.pdf
The airflow wicks away your sweat which dehydrates you. Very dangerous wearing mesh when it's over 93 degrees.
http://www.ironbutt.com/ibmagazine/i..._62-66_Hot.pdf
The airflow wicks away your sweat which dehydrates you. Very dangerous wearing mesh when it's over 93 degrees.
The article you referenced recommends "minimize your body’s exposure to direct wind blast," and I think modern textile/mesh jackets do that pretty well.
#86
Wearing mesh in the 90s is not dangerous if you use your head. You have to drink a lot of fluid and it is as simple as that. Now obviously getting to extreme heat zones well north of a hundred require riding in the early morning and evening to avoid it.
I have posted in another thread how I think the "Harley style" makes this more of an issue. Many wont wear a jacket much less one specifically designed for travel and many wont carry water or even have bags to do so. My jacket has a pocket for a water bladder. As well on my adv bikes I use a tank bag that always have fluids in them and I drink them constantly even while riding down the road which is where the bladder comes into play.
Now on my Softail you wont see me with a tank bag but if I am doing a big trip I will be wearing that jacket and it will have a hundred ounces in it that gets refilled at every stop.
I think that when you talk about real touring in harsh conditions you have to expand the knowledge base much further out from just riding. Heat is serious business but it can be overcome safely if you keep your head in the game.
I had a Canadian chic riding with me for a week or so in Mexico. She was wearing some nice Klim Gear and I was wearing mesh. We would stop for a break and I would feel great and she would literally have pools of sweat and be staggering. I watched her like a hawk to keep fluids in her. She also had a bladder or she would have gone down for sure.
I have posted in another thread how I think the "Harley style" makes this more of an issue. Many wont wear a jacket much less one specifically designed for travel and many wont carry water or even have bags to do so. My jacket has a pocket for a water bladder. As well on my adv bikes I use a tank bag that always have fluids in them and I drink them constantly even while riding down the road which is where the bladder comes into play.
Now on my Softail you wont see me with a tank bag but if I am doing a big trip I will be wearing that jacket and it will have a hundred ounces in it that gets refilled at every stop.
I think that when you talk about real touring in harsh conditions you have to expand the knowledge base much further out from just riding. Heat is serious business but it can be overcome safely if you keep your head in the game.
I had a Canadian chic riding with me for a week or so in Mexico. She was wearing some nice Klim Gear and I was wearing mesh. We would stop for a break and I would feel great and she would literally have pools of sweat and be staggering. I watched her like a hawk to keep fluids in her. She also had a bladder or she would have gone down for sure.
#87
I wear a Vanson Vent Max in grey with armor all summer long.
Really couldn't care less what the t-shirt crowd thinks. I usually ride better than they do anyway.
Not only does it offer protection, (not as good as leather, but some) it keeps the sun off, and is comfortable on the ride. I might be a little cooler in a t shirt at a stop light, but not much. And when the bike is moving, it's more comfortable than a T shirt.
Really couldn't care less what the t-shirt crowd thinks. I usually ride better than they do anyway.
Not only does it offer protection, (not as good as leather, but some) it keeps the sun off, and is comfortable on the ride. I might be a little cooler in a t shirt at a stop light, but not much. And when the bike is moving, it's more comfortable than a T shirt.
#88
I read that article a couple weeks ago. I guess it depends what kind of mesh you're talking about. My jacket is considered "textile/mesh". There are some vents on the front that allow airflow through & out the back, but there's no direct airflow across my skin. As I mentioned in a previous post, I rode home one a hot/humid 95 degree day last week for an hour plus, all highway. I was warm, but comfortable.
The article you referenced recommends "minimize your body’s exposure to direct wind blast," and I think modern textile/mesh jackets do that pretty well.
The article you referenced recommends "minimize your body’s exposure to direct wind blast," and I think modern textile/mesh jackets do that pretty well.
In serious heat (110+) I find I'm the most comfortable in a lightweight suit with all the vents closed. It creates a microclimate which is cooler than the outside air. I still suck down water through a hydration bladder, but I lose much less moisture due to evaporation and stay cooler with the sweat on my skin.
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#89
I've got a couple of mesh jackets. One is a "freebie" thrown into the deal when I bought a new 2008 FXD -- typical HD orange and black. I like it and wear it sometimes, but the armor is really heavy. As an alternative I later (maybe 2009?) bought a Tourmaster jacket. It's much lighter, light gray and black, reasonably comfortable for year-round wear (at least, in south Louisiana ), and I do wear it regularly. Very durable jacket, never had any problems with zippers, seams, etc, but the velcro on the wrist straps is getting a bit weak. I've never crashed in either jacket, so no experience on their crash protection.
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#90
My dad was a farmer and his standard attire -- even in the summer heat/humidity of south Louisiana -- was khaki pants and long-sleeved shirt.
I've got a couple of mesh jackets. One is a "freebie" thrown into the deal when I bought a new 2008 FXD -- typical HD orange and black. I like it and wear it sometimes, but the armor is really heavy. As an alternative I later (maybe 2009?) bought a Tourmaster jacket. It's much lighter, light gray and black, reasonably comfortable for year-round wear (at least, in south Louisiana ), and I do wear it regularly. Very durable jacket, never had any problems with zippers, seams, etc, but the velcro on the wrist straps is getting a bit weak. I've never crashed in either jacket, so no experience on their crash protection.
I've got a couple of mesh jackets. One is a "freebie" thrown into the deal when I bought a new 2008 FXD -- typical HD orange and black. I like it and wear it sometimes, but the armor is really heavy. As an alternative I later (maybe 2009?) bought a Tourmaster jacket. It's much lighter, light gray and black, reasonably comfortable for year-round wear (at least, in south Louisiana ), and I do wear it regularly. Very durable jacket, never had any problems with zippers, seams, etc, but the velcro on the wrist straps is getting a bit weak. I've never crashed in either jacket, so no experience on their crash protection.
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