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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 09:42 AM
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And the vrod is on a slick. The Japanese bikes are on a street tire and 2 inches shorter up to 10 inches shorter with a good rider (not me) and once again street legal. Jesus the vrod destroyer was a one trick pony and still not that great at it. The differences couldn't be more drastic. Slow race bike vs fast street bike. I can't believe you're even arguing about this.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by John S
It's a lot more fun to ride a slow bike fast than to ride a fast bike slow

Harley Hangin' with Sportbikes - YouTube
LOL, that guys friend was doing 100 mph in a t-shirt and shorts while wearing a helmet? I guess you get in a wreck you just lose all your skin, break a bunch of bones, and damage all your primary organs except you prevent from splitting your head completely open.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 09:55 AM
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Last thing I'll post about it, this is one of the bikes from blocks website. All total his mod list is about 2000 bucks. That bike can be duplicated for 8k or less. And it's not a fluke, there are more of them out there than harley produced "destroyers"



They aren't even in the same league, hell they aren't even playing the same sport.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 10:08 AM
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I just love it when a Harley guy started comparing his H-D to various Sport bikes.

It's comical to say the least.

I'm looking for videos of F-250 diesels beating up on Mclaren 570S, can anybody help.....

LMAOROTF.

Before you start to flame, I own an H-D, I recently sold my ZX10R, I ride both H-D and Sport bikes.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Coastal CVO
I just love it when a Harley guy started comparing his H-D to various Sport bikes.

It's comical to say the least.

I'm looking for videos of F-250 diesels beating up on Mclaren 570S, can anybody help.....

LMAOROTF.

Before you start to flame, I own an H-D, I recently sold my ZX10R, I ride both H-D and Sport bikes.
Exactly. Then you start to get the "my friend of a friend knew a guy" stories or a video of a harley with more money in motor upgrades than the MSRP cost of the 600cc sport bike that he just beat. Doesn't make any sense.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 11:07 AM
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Destroyer set the pro stock record....<----key word is record and it was Mr Hines riding it. Those 7-8 second rockets are NOT 8k dollar bikes. They have as much in them as a destroyer.......Dont forget the record speed for a bagger is a road glide at 165 MPH. The statement was no stock harley can run with any jap bike. I gave a STOCK, FACTORY Harley that is a SPEED RECORD holder. Now for the most part, no. Even the Buells couldnt run with them. But, the statement was black and white....no factory Harley could run with the Japs.....I just provided one.


(FWIW, on real curvy roads with no straightaways, the 1200 sporty still holds its own......I could drag the pedals off of mine.....I did always ruin the scrape bolts....)
Just an FYI, the Destroyer has nothing to do with a one off, NHRA Prostock bike. The Destroyer is a low 10-low 9 Second bike (depending on who is riding, state of tune etc), based on the VRod.
The NHRA Vance and Hines Prostock 6 Second bike is a one off race bike, not available for sale, and has zero Destroyer parts on it. Only similarity is both run slicks and bars. Harley sponsors the NHRA prostock motorcycle class, so guess who makes the rules? At least the S&S Buells can be purchased and built to run in the class-as the rules state the bike and or parts must be available for purchase by the general public. Both the Buell/S&S teams and the import teams have protested the Harley bikes because they cant be purchased by anyone to compete with them. As they say, the golden rule-those with the gold make the rules...

As far as the Harley vs. Import-of course a stock street Harley can't hold a candle to a modern import sportbike. It costs money, time, engineering, and sweat to build a very fast Harley streetbike, while an import comes from the factory very fast.
I have had to basically redesign my Harley streetbike to run high 9's, front to back. But, it can be done, and my bike is proof of it. I ride it daily, everywhere, and its alot of fun...
Sure, I could have got a sportbike, but that's EZ-and I like Harley's and I like challenges...
Keep in mind, I have raced many imports and I have had much better success to the 1/8 mile than 1/4, as I almost always jump them off the line. Most average import guys dont know how to launch them with their stock wheelbase and high rpms- they wheelie, get out of shape, and maybe miss shift. Or, they are just slow, but once they get into their powerband-look out.
Fact is, just cause a pro rider can run 9's on a stock modern literbike, Joe Average rider at the track that I see runs 10's with them-not 9's.
Bikes with mods, better riders, etc is a totally different story, so I usually never know what they have in them until I run them.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...-magazine.html
 
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 12:02 PM
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Pw it doesn't take a pro to run 9's in a liter bike by far, but back in the early 2000's Ricky gadsen did it on a 600cc bike with a lowering strap and nothing else.

I'll never knock a fast bike from anyone but as you can see in the screenshot I posted, that 10r went bottom 8's with almost no mods.

It's just not the same ballpark.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 12:15 PM
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 12:53 PM
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I have a feeling this BMW GS rider was surprised that I was there considering how much Beemer riders on other sites bad mouth the handling of HD's. Not a sport bike against a Harley but still you can have fun. My opinion is if you can keep up with a sport bike on a Harley then you're a really good rider or he sucks (not talking about drag racing). Pace picks up around the 4:00 mark

 
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Old Sep 13, 2016 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by slodsm
Pw it doesn't take a pro to run 9's in a liter bike by far, but back in the early 2000's Ricky gadsen did it on a 600cc bike with a lowering strap and nothing else.

I'll never knock a fast bike from anyone but as you can see in the screenshot I posted, that 10r went bottom 8's with almost no mods.

It's just not the same ballpark.
Gadson is one of, if not the fastest pro rider in the World-Not who I see going to my local T&T.
Almost no mods? Ferland Jr. weighs a ridiculous 112 lbs suited up, is an excellent rider,and there are a dozen mods done to that 10R. Apples to oranges.
And yes, it does take a good rider to run 9's on a STOCK (that means showroom/no mods) off the floor bike. I see average riders who might be bad *** in the canyons, bog, wheelie, and miss shifts trying to drag race one.
MOST run 10's on stock stuff-not 9's. Of course with mods, they can easily get in the 9's and even 8's, but that ain't what I'm talking about here.

Just to educate you on some 1/4 mile times-Also keep in mind these numbers were will PRO riders-squids at your local track are slower, usually by quite a bit. The usual high 9 Second bikes (ZX, Busa, etc. are there of course), but those numbers aint what I see at T&T. Mostly low-mid 10's off the showroom floor. They do have big mph, but they cant 60' the bike and are slow as hell off the line, 1.8-2.0 60' or worse (I have seen their timeslips running against them), whereas a pro like Gadson can 60' these stock bikes 1.4 or even lower strapping down the front end.

95% of the bikes on this list run 10's, 11's or slower-fact.
Even the 9 Second bikes, you can subtract maybe 1/2 a second with an average rider on it-not a pro who ran these numbers.


http://www.sportrider.com/tech/sport...rmance-numbers
 

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