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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 08:21 AM
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Thanks! I'll contact my dealer to find out why EITMS becomes active all the time when idling. Together with the trans oil leaking into the primary and the whining 3rd and 4th gear, the list is getting longer.... :-)
Anytime the outside temp is over 80*, my 2017 does the same thing,,, it's designed to do that, to control the heat build up earlier than Pre-2017 models did... They changed the location of the Heat Sensors and the setting for when the EITMS kicks in...
My Dealer salesman tried to turn off my EITMS when I took delivery of my 2017,,, I told him to turn the damn thing back on...
 

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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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Mine idles erratically all the time
Same here. LoL
 
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Sam D.
Anytime the outside temp is over 80*, my 2017 does the same thing,,, it's designed to do that, to control the heat build up earlier than Pre-2017 models did... They changed the location of the Heat Sensors and the setting for when the EITMS kicks in...
My Dealer salesman tried to turn off my EITM when I took delivery of my 2017,,, I told him to turn the damn thing back on...
I have also noticed this. When the ambient air temp outside reaches 81 degrees F, the rear cylinder of the M8 will drop out (if EITMS is engaged) when pulling up to a stop light. This is considerably lower than my previous twin cam bike. It is important to note here that when the M8 engine was invented, many of the sensors ended up in different locations in the new engine. As a result what used to kick in at say 90 degrees might now kick in at a different temperature because it is now measuring at a different engine location. For example a twin cam sensor of some sort may have been in the front cylinder somewhere and now it is in the rear cylinder of the M8 engine. It is also important to remember that the EITMS is for RIDER COMFORT, not to tell you your engine temp is rising.
I had the EITMS engaged all the time with my twin cam bike. With the M8 I have turned it off because the rear cylinder was dropping out virtually all the time (or whenever the outdoor temp hit 81 degrees F. I find it annoying when that happens because there is always a bit of a pause when pulling away from the stop sign before the rear cylinder kicks in. Since I am not bothered by the exhaust heat when riding slow, I don't miss turning it off.
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RK14SGS
Mine idles erratically all the time
Same here. It hunts around at times. Nothing serious but compared to my twin cams it's noticeable.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by texaswiz
I have also noticed this. When the ambient air temp outside reaches 81 degrees F, the rear cylinder of the M8 will drop out (if EITMS is engaged) when pulling up to a stop light. This is considerably lower than my previous twin cam bike. It is important to note here that when the M8 engine was invented, many of the sensors ended up in different locations in the new engine. As a result what used to kick in at say 90 degrees might now kick in at a different temperature because it is now measuring at a different engine location. For example a twin cam sensor of some sort may have been in the front cylinder somewhere and now it is in the rear cylinder of the M8 engine. It is also important to remember that the EITMS is for RIDER COMFORT, not to tell you your engine temp is rising.
I had the EITMS engaged all the time with my twin cam bike. With the M8 I have turned it off because the rear cylinder was dropping out virtually all the time (or whenever the outdoor temp hit 81 degrees F. I find it annoying when that happens because there is always a bit of a pause when pulling away from the stop sign before the rear cylinder kicks in. Since I am not bothered by the exhaust heat when riding slow, I don't miss turning it off.
Like most things in life, your personal preference will dictate your behavior. That is to say "To each his own" or "Would you like paper or plastic"?
Part of it is the M8 but the EITMS temperature changes came with the wet head rushmore bikes. They lowered it back then. It does kick on way early. IFRC that can be adjusted with the vision. I would have to look at mine to see but I think it can. I am jut not hooking the vision up to the M8 yet.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 12:13 PM
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Just press the (i) icon on the right hand controls and it will tell you if EITMS is disabled, enabled, or active. If you leave that information screen on, then when you come to a stop, you can see if it switches from enabled to active. Then you know what it's doing.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fwj
Thanks! I'll contact my dealer to find out why EITMS becomes active all the time when idling. Together with the trans oil leaking into the primary and the whining 3rd and 4th gear, the list is getting longer.... :-)
If the EITMS is enabled, then it SHOULD come on at idle any time it is over 80 degrees. That is the way it is designed to work..... Try disabling it and see if your symptoms change......

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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 07:10 PM
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I disabled it earlier this year, that's the default leaving the factory now..if and when I feel I need it activated I'll do it..I like having my bikes firing on all cylinders!
 

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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by todd-67
Same here. It hunts around at times. Nothing serious but compared to my twin cams it's noticeable.
Here too. MY EITMS is disabled. At idle it stumbles and sounds like it doesn't fire at random intervals. Far from a smooth idle for sure! Idle speed is around 950.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2017 | 11:27 PM
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Even with the EITMS turned off..(I turned mine off in the Showroom before even taken delivery) my Bike used to hunt at idle..re flashed the tune and she purrs like a Kitten at 850 rpm..tach needle steady ..no more bouncing up and down.
no need for me to raise idle to 950 to smooth it out.
I think the rough ,uneven ,fluctuating idle has more to do with the tune than anything else..as least that was my experience.
Just my Humble Opinion
 
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