Thank you Jamie and FM for a great comparison, you did the test as you said using the same set up except cam change. I would have liked to see some SE torque and power cams for comparison and warranty purpose's. The M8 platform has brought new challenges to the aftermarket with the better flowing heads and raised CR. The dyno runs show very similar results and I suspect different exhaust would change results respectively. Cheers and thank you for all of your dedicated and hard work.

 

Been following since you and Steve decided to do this...
Currently running the SE8-447 with Fullsac header and TTS tune and really looking forward to seeing how those cams perform compared to my epa cam.
Still have one year of warranty left on my '17 UC and left the SE cam in just in case I needed to take it in for any issues...Header and tune are easier to swap out than doing a cam as well.

Agreed!

 

at the risk of getting flamed, trolled or worse, I wonder how the screamin' eagle power cams would compare with those tested by FM?

 

Honestly, I don't think there is a chart Jamie could post that would please you Iyork. Multiple post, no matter how he's answered you, you think you know more. Come on man, lay off. The results are out. Same EXACT bike, same EXACT dyno, same EXACT dyno tuner. Ran by one of the best in the industry. Not to mention, the man is as honest as the day is long. He tells it as it is.

 

Yes, you have all the trappings of an engineer..... I work alongside them all day. I am smart enough to download a map into my ecm but I wont because Im going to ride north with a pocket full of money to give to Fuel Moto. I guess I will get on the phone from now on and give them a call to ask the experts the questions. Thanks Max..... have a nice day.

 

Do you hace a copy of your Dyno chart you could share?

 

He’s only replied once (or twice?), mentioning too many variables to make any type of comparison. Side note...I called and talked to him personally on the 22x and the bike/tuner that produced the surprisingly low numbers, a follow up per se. Jamie was great and had just talked to the tuner a day earlier about this problem. He blamed the screaming eagle ventilator AC, but said my Stage 1 AC would allow me to pick up the missing torque and hp. 93/98 to 105/120 from a simple air cleaner change...that’s when I went “seriously??”

And I’ve never ONCE said I know more than ANYONE about tuning and performance modifications when it comes to camshafts. I do know enough from my work experiences to question answers such as above.

And I’ll state two things once again..I wouldn’t hesitate to send anyone to Jamie/Fuel Moto for performance products and modifications, AND I appreciate all the work he has done and information that has been posted.

I leave it alone now. The 22x cam will get some buyers and hopefully we will see other people posting results in the near future. Until then...I’ll stick with my Torque cam for warranty purposes

 

Sorry I do not......I did a dealer installed Stage 2 torque cam, SE tuner, and rinehart slip ons with stock head pipe. Ran the canned tune, then auto tuned myself, never had it dyno tuned.
It's much better than stock but signs off a little to soon for me.
Looking forward to the results that Steve and $tonecold come out with as its pretty much my exact set up I just upgraded to recently and potential cam upgrades.

 

I can't believe ppl here are arguing about a few extra hp or torque. Lol

You guys racing your bikes? Otherwise, really what does a few more little numbers matter?

 

I don't doubt Iyork is a cool dude, definitely knows more than I do about cams, but.................l have to second the quoted post above. Every other post by Iyork the words "dyno sheets" is in there, almost sounds like you're downgrading Jamie. FM put a lot of effort and time in this research, just not right bro.

Ditto!! All cam results are very close to each other, well said.