Shifting without the clutch?
#21
If you tear down the tranny, you will find that all the gears are in constant mesh.
therefore you cannot "chip a gear"
the only thing that moves are the engagement "dogs"
the dogs are a little undercut , so letting a little slack in the applied power is necessary to move the dog from one gear to another .
clutchless shifting is fine if you understand the mechanics .
but I see some folks wearing out/off the shifting dogs , and burning the shifting forks.
"If it don't go ,"force it"
therefore you cannot "chip a gear"
the only thing that moves are the engagement "dogs"
the dogs are a little undercut , so letting a little slack in the applied power is necessary to move the dog from one gear to another .
clutchless shifting is fine if you understand the mechanics .
but I see some folks wearing out/off the shifting dogs , and burning the shifting forks.
"If it don't go ,"force it"
#22
If you tear down the tranny, you will find that all the gears are in constant mesh.
therefore you cannot "chip a gear"
the only thing that moves are the engagement "dogs"
the dogs are a little undercut , so letting a little slack in the applied power is necessary to move the dog from one gear to another .
clutchless shifting is fine if you understand the mechanics .
but I see some folks wearing out/off the shifting dogs , and burning the shifting forks.
"If it don't go ,"force it"
therefore you cannot "chip a gear"
the only thing that moves are the engagement "dogs"
the dogs are a little undercut , so letting a little slack in the applied power is necessary to move the dog from one gear to another .
clutchless shifting is fine if you understand the mechanics .
but I see some folks wearing out/off the shifting dogs , and burning the shifting forks.
"If it don't go ,"force it"
And it's not that hard to break off the dogs, even without clutch-less shifting.
#23
According to the Motorcycle Shifting Handbook, by Stephon Frasier: "With good technique, clutchless up and downshifting can be done at any road or engine speed and neither will damage your gearbox"
I think the key to smooth shifts is preloading. That and timing the throttle release w/the shift action. I find preloading to be tricky and often I do a clutchless shift unintentionally -- mostly between first and second.
I think the key to smooth shifts is preloading. That and timing the throttle release w/the shift action. I find preloading to be tricky and often I do a clutchless shift unintentionally -- mostly between first and second.
#24
Looks a bit black! Otherwise one of the nicer models of the new line-up. You've plainly cracked clutchless shifting - well done! I had one bike, many years ago, with a very close-ratio 6-speed, which I could chenge both up and down without the clutch - especially on dirt. Most of my bikes however are best only changed that way in the upper closer ratios. Fourth into top on my Buell at speed is especially rewarding!
#26
On our five speed trannies the ratios are quite wide between first and second, very close between fourth and top. A clutchless change, on a conventional tranny like ours, is much more user friendly when the ratios are close.
Last edited by grbrown; 12-20-2017 at 03:58 AM.
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