My bike sounds like a chain saw
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My bike sounds like a chain saw
Okay, i got my bike (2011 48) from the stealer for it's 1k service and it was all jacked up:
head bearings were loose causing a ton of head shake
rear wheel was out alignment
primary chain was making a loud whirring sound when I let off the throttle
I loosened the front end, lubed the bearings (stealer didn't do it) and retorqued - head shake gone.
I aligned the rear wheel - bike is not tramming or pulling now.
BUT... the whirring sound is still there. I have adjusted the primary chain to spec doing it cold, hot and using the hero method. The noise does go away if I tighten the primary chain to beyond spec (1/8" hot, 1/4" cold at the tightest point), but I know that I cannot leave it that tight. When I bring it back to spec the sounds comes right back. There is NO question that the primary chain is in spec per the manual. It's been checked and rechecked.
The sound occurs when I dump the throttle at higher rpm, such as when shifting up to the next gear. It is a very loud whirring, "chain" like sound - reminds of the sound the chain on a chain saw makes, but fast and it is LOUD and NOT like what the primary sounded like before the service. I would SWEAR the primary was loose (not knocking the case though) but I know it's in spec.
Sound like the compensator nut is loose?
I really, really do not want to take my bike back to the dealer due to the awful job they did last time and I can wrench.
Thanks!
head bearings were loose causing a ton of head shake
rear wheel was out alignment
primary chain was making a loud whirring sound when I let off the throttle
I loosened the front end, lubed the bearings (stealer didn't do it) and retorqued - head shake gone.
I aligned the rear wheel - bike is not tramming or pulling now.
BUT... the whirring sound is still there. I have adjusted the primary chain to spec doing it cold, hot and using the hero method. The noise does go away if I tighten the primary chain to beyond spec (1/8" hot, 1/4" cold at the tightest point), but I know that I cannot leave it that tight. When I bring it back to spec the sounds comes right back. There is NO question that the primary chain is in spec per the manual. It's been checked and rechecked.
The sound occurs when I dump the throttle at higher rpm, such as when shifting up to the next gear. It is a very loud whirring, "chain" like sound - reminds of the sound the chain on a chain saw makes, but fast and it is LOUD and NOT like what the primary sounded like before the service. I would SWEAR the primary was loose (not knocking the case though) but I know it's in spec.
Sound like the compensator nut is loose?
I really, really do not want to take my bike back to the dealer due to the awful job they did last time and I can wrench.
Thanks!
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You know, I did not believe google when I checked the reviews of my local dealer and they rated it as just under 3 stars and said to stay away from their service department. The other dealer near me only has 2 1/2 stars and they have worse reviews. If it can be done myself, I would rather do it.
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Isn't that one of the years that Harley is replacing the compensators with SE upgrades?
Other than that I can tell you that issues in the transmission often create sounds in the primary.
By adjusting the chain tight, loose, or on the money could be changing the tension on the compensator, and the clutch. If not a bad compensator you could have a clutch hub bearing, or any tranny bearing (mainshaft or otherwise) that the tension changes effect these other issues.
Why not let them do whatever under warranty? It could be expensive to DIY.
Other than that I can tell you that issues in the transmission often create sounds in the primary.
By adjusting the chain tight, loose, or on the money could be changing the tension on the compensator, and the clutch. If not a bad compensator you could have a clutch hub bearing, or any tranny bearing (mainshaft or otherwise) that the tension changes effect these other issues.
Why not let them do whatever under warranty? It could be expensive to DIY.
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Isn't that one of the years that Harley is replacing the compensators with SE upgrades?
Other than that I can tell you that issues in the transmission often create sounds in the primary.
By adjusting the chain tight, loose, or on the money could be changing the tension on the compensator, and the clutch. If not a bad compensator you could have a clutch hub bearing, or any tranny bearing (mainshaft or otherwise) that the tension changes effect these other issues.
Why not let them do whatever under warranty? It could be expensive to DIY.
Other than that I can tell you that issues in the transmission often create sounds in the primary.
By adjusting the chain tight, loose, or on the money could be changing the tension on the compensator, and the clutch. If not a bad compensator you could have a clutch hub bearing, or any tranny bearing (mainshaft or otherwise) that the tension changes effect these other issues.
Why not let them do whatever under warranty? It could be expensive to DIY.
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Okay, I brought it in today and they said that is just how Harleys sound. 4 hours later they said they went into the primary, checked all the bolts and the primary tension etc. and it was all fine. They reassured me that Harleys make a lot of noise and that sportys make more than the average Harley. They then proceeded to tell me I owed them $110 for them to check out the sound when all was okay. I agreed to pay for the primary gasket and oil at $24. So... I guess this is how Harleys sound - loud whirring from the primary chain when you engage the clutch at RPM and probably the reason I noticed it right after the service was because they loosened the primary to spec.
Oh well, I think I am going to just ride it like I stole it and make damn sure that if something is going to fail, that it is going to happen in the next two years.
Oh well, I think I am going to just ride it like I stole it and make damn sure that if something is going to fail, that it is going to happen in the next two years.