loc tight or anti sieze
#11
RE: loc tight or anti sieze
The problem is we don't normally know what needs to be taken off in the future. The blue loc-tite is generally removeable with just a bit more than normal effort, but keeps the fastener in place during operation.
Anti-seize is generally used for removeable parts. One of the problems with anti-seize is it changes the torque requirements of bolts because it acts as a lubricant. Most of the torque tables we use on our bikes are not corrected for this. We then have a tendency to over tighten and break bolts.
BTW, the JB weld routine is getting a bit old. We have the same jokes where I work on a regular basis! Some of the people here asking for advice don't even know what that stuff is used for!
Anti-seize is generally used for removeable parts. One of the problems with anti-seize is it changes the torque requirements of bolts because it acts as a lubricant. Most of the torque tables we use on our bikes are not corrected for this. We then have a tendency to over tighten and break bolts.
BTW, the JB weld routine is getting a bit old. We have the same jokes where I work on a regular basis! Some of the people here asking for advice don't even know what that stuff is used for!
#12
#14
RE: loc tight or anti sieze
ORIGINAL: ron potier
BTW, the JB weld routine is getting a bit old. We have the same jokes where I work on a regular basis! Some of the people here asking for advice don't even know what that stuff is used for!
BTW, the JB weld routine is getting a bit old. We have the same jokes where I work on a regular basis! Some of the people here asking for advice don't even know what that stuff is used for!
Lighten up. You were not even around when the JB Weld joke started here based on your post history and join date. Not to mention someone else had already said it was a joke. If you don't like what is said here then use the little "X" in the top right hand corner of your browser to fix the problem.
Jeff
#16
RE: loc tight or anti sieze
Is there anything you can put on nut/bolt that is already on and tight to keep it from loosening up, but still be able to get if off if/when you want? Loctite requires removing the nut, applying the loctite, then putting it back together. My tourpak and bag hardware is still firmly in place, but I would like to do something to make sure they don't vibrate loose in the future.
#17
RE: loc tight or anti sieze
The loctite people say that their product also hasanti-seize properties. Anti-seize is mainly corrossion inhibiting. The loctite must coat the parts to keep them from seizing up.
Use the right stuff on the right part. I don't buy the Kury stuff after my bad experience with their expensive foot pegs on the Sportster, but if they gave you anti-seize to use, I'd use it. I always use anti-seize on spark plugs and lug nuts. And I use blue loctite on most other things. A lot less stuff falls off that way.
Use the right stuff on the right part. I don't buy the Kury stuff after my bad experience with their expensive foot pegs on the Sportster, but if they gave you anti-seize to use, I'd use it. I always use anti-seize on spark plugs and lug nuts. And I use blue loctite on most other things. A lot less stuff falls off that way.
#18
RE: loc tight or anti sieze
ORIGINAL: Windup08
Is there anything you can put on nut/bolt that is already on and tight to keep it from loosening up, but still be able to get if off if/when you want? Loctite requires removing the nut, applying the loctite, then putting it back together. My tourpak and bag hardware is still firmly in place, but I would like to do something to make sure they don't vibrate loose in the future.
Is there anything you can put on nut/bolt that is already on and tight to keep it from loosening up, but still be able to get if off if/when you want? Loctite requires removing the nut, applying the loctite, then putting it back together. My tourpak and bag hardware is still firmly in place, but I would like to do something to make sure they don't vibrate loose in the future.
#19
RE: loc tight or anti sieze
The Loctite does have "anti-sieze" properties because it seals the threads keeping corrosion out. Anti sieze keeps corrosion out and allows easier removal and assembly. I would do the anti sieze and keep my eye on the bolts...if there's a problem, apply the Loctite.
#20
RE: loc tight or anti sieze
the one thing you can put on a bolt once it is in to keep it from loosening is a TORQUE WRENCH
Anti seize prevents galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals ( steel and aluminum).. put tin foil on a filling and you'll understand the concept.
Loctite or other anerobic sealants harden in the absense of oxygen, filling the void between the tapped thread and the cut threads, effectively giving you 100% engagement instead of the normally designed 75% that allows you to screw the things together.
I use anti seize unless there is specific manufacturers instructions to use locktte. I also use a torque wrench, especially on my jap bike where the hardware tends to be smaller and 'GRUNT" is not a good torque value, especially when everything is aluminum and a PITA to remove and helicoil.
Anti seize prevents galvanic corrosion between dissimilar metals ( steel and aluminum).. put tin foil on a filling and you'll understand the concept.
Loctite or other anerobic sealants harden in the absense of oxygen, filling the void between the tapped thread and the cut threads, effectively giving you 100% engagement instead of the normally designed 75% that allows you to screw the things together.
I use anti seize unless there is specific manufacturers instructions to use locktte. I also use a torque wrench, especially on my jap bike where the hardware tends to be smaller and 'GRUNT" is not a good torque value, especially when everything is aluminum and a PITA to remove and helicoil.