Installed FM PCV and bike not running right.
 

I installed the FM PCV, AC and rineharts. I have been running the rinehart slipons for a few weeks. I just got around to spraypainting the AC Backplate and I installed it tonight. Fired right up so I'm thinking I'm good. I live in a dense neighborhood so I can't hammer it till I get a few blocks away. Once I nail it I didn't really feel any extra pull off the line, as a matter of fact felt slugish. I went around a few blocks to make sure it wasn't going to have an issue and took it up the highway. Only a few miles. By the time im heading home the engine is hotter than it has ever been.

I'm in a tough spot now, Jaime is closed and I know they are moving this week. If I can't get it running right tonight I will have to remove the PCV and AC till I can get some map help.


anyone got ideas.

I do have the software and a laptop but Don't really know what I'm looking at.


Also I am running without the football if that changes anything.

zero the throttle plate .

Little more info would be helpful, I am in the garage and have it hooked up right now.

Did you unplug the o2 sensors and use the ones Fuel Moto sent? And make sure you took off the backing plate bracket.

I have completed the installation as it was supposed to be. I installed the eliminators, Installed the AC as it is supposed to be. I need to know more about the TPS setting.

I don't think the 09's need it(TPS setting). It was plug and play.

Some bikes come with program already installed what kind of bike, go to your map and tell me what your values are in the 0 to 50% throttle threw 4000 rpm

On the pcv the o2s are bypassed with dead head plugs, did you do that

If you think you are running lean (because it seemed hotter) then you want to increase the values if at 10% 1000 rpm you have a 14 put the curser over it and type in 20 do that from 10% throttle to 50% throttle up to 3500 rpm increase values by half before you do this save the map that it has now to a file call it orig. So you now if you want to reinstall. After you have loaded the new settingings drive notice engine temp because you are not on a dyno with gas analyzer. I have oil temp on mine want it under 300.

With the PCV connected to the computer and the PC software running, start the bike and look at the "% Throttle" readout (top right), which should show "0" at idle (engine running). If not, click on Calibrate > Throttle Position and set the Minimum Voltage to 0.700. Maximum Voltage should be 4.300.

Don't mess with the base-map values until you talk to Jamie!

Man your map is very lean

and yes. I have installed the o2 eliminators, everything is as it should be. I did not reuse the football, I installed a Wrinkle black flat cover. The K&N is exposed

Also we are looking a cyl 1 map now cyl 2 needs to be richer gets less air i leaned my map and could still go more my eng. Temp this weekend was at 232 after riding

I am kinda stuck here., I don't have a car and need the bike to get to work at 445aM. should I pull it out for now or you think I can make the right changes here.

Try the football cover and see if it makes any difference at all. Check your connection at the ECM carefully.

Give half more value to each 1 up to 60% throttle if its 9 make it 13 or 14 then drive remember to save your map first and you will have to load after you change

Don't mess with your map values, as what I see on the table you posted doesn't look out of line to me. I would call Jamie tomorrow, as his shop should be open. He's closed Thursday and Friday, back in operation Monday.

I wouldn't worry about the 2 and 5 throttle now do it latter we are just testing now i can't stay with you long i have to go somewhere will check back tomorrow rich want hurt motor lean will

I wouldn't cali. Throttle only base if your not on dyno don't do full throttle

It's not too lean. The '09 maps use leaner values than earlier models.

Mike, do what Jimmything suggested and replace your new AC cover with the football. Question: How do you know it's "running hotter than ever"? Do this:

1. Have your USB cable and computer ready with PC software running.

2. Take the bike out and run it 'til it is hot.

3. Connect cable to PCV and check your engine temperature reading in the PC software. If you plugged in the J1850 connector as per the instructions you should see a temperature readout. What is it?

I agree with iclick.....Do Not Mess With The Map! I had the same problem and it was as simple as calibrating the TPS. Re-calibrate as iclick suggested and call Jamie in the morning.

IMHO

PS. Make sure the bike is warmed to operating temp. when setting TPS.

took a ride. I actually put a bub7 slipon map and i am running @ 279 degrees.

also with the engine off and the pcv connected to the computer the throttle % is blipping frmo 100% then blinks 0%

I reverted back to the map jamie loaded for me. I will put the football back on.

Depending on how long the ride was and what you did during the ride, that temp. reading doesn't look alarming. It isn't even enough to trigger EITMS. If you ran the crap out of it on the highway and then slowed down while approaching your house it would make sense. What did you do between starting it and checking the temp., and how far did you ride? Also, if you left the engine running while connecting the PCV to the computer the head temp. will rise rapidly while the bike is stationary.

Do it again with the FM map, as there's nothing wrong with that map. There's no use in testing with other maps, so put everything back the way it was (FM map), but replace the football cover just for testing. I don't think the other cover would affect anything, but let's try it. Did you check your TPS? It should show 0% when idling.

how about the TPS reading?

I just edited my last reply asking about that. What does it show when idling? I made some other changes to that reply, so please read it again.:)

I just went an checked mine and there is no fluctuation while the bike is running. Did you try to re set the TPS yet how did it go.:confused:

He said it was going from 100% to 0% when the engine wasn't running. I'm not sure if that's normal or not with TBW, but I would be interested in TP% while idling. We still haven't gotten any info on that yet.

at idle it is 0. If I slightly touch the throttle or hit it hard it is 100% there is nothing in between.

What are your voltage readings? This sounds exactly like the problem I had, I am no mechanic by any means but I think if we can get your TPS set right all will be well.

Just to clarify, when setting tps on a tbw I keep ther ign on and run switch on but engine off?

Correct! What I did is warmed the engine to 230 then shut down the engine and shut off ignition. At that time bring up the TPS screen, turn on ignition and turn bike to run DO NOT START. Click on reset then enter values as iclick suggested then click ok. Shut everything back off and then start bike as normal.

You should be set correctly, it took a few rides before the bike ran significantly better. I think the plugs got a little fouled from the improper setting. Try that and let us know.

ok, so you type in the values? You dont roll the throttle?

That is what I did as I think rolling the throttle will not work on the TBW.

when yours is running and you roll the throttle does it increment from 0% and up? I gotta put the kids to bed the I will try the setting.

I think so, but I am not sure I tried it after that. If that does not work I can go hook mine up to the lap top and see what mine is doing let me know.

I think that did it. Now Ill throw some pants on and take a ride!

here is a link to fuel moto tutorial on setting throttle position
http://fuelmotousa.com/SetThrottle.swf

That is for the PCIII he has the PCV.