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Old 10-20-2013, 09:03 AM
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I got 13k miles on my original tires, which might have lasted another 1-2k but with the spiecal they had this month, it saved me $250 replacing them.
 
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:04 AM
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How much below the load rating of the factory tire was the load of the Michelin? I guess it's always "buyer be ware" but having a shop recommend a tire would suggest he knows it is adequate for the machine you have. Overloading a tire builds up heat and can lead to sudden failure. Whether he realized it or not, he put you at increased risk of serious injury or worse. You don't have to go in and have temper tantrum at the guy, but he and his other customers would benefit from his ignorance being corrected. I think he owes you a discount on your next set of tires, but perhaps you never want to see him again. I am one who still runs the Dunlops, but with so many here liking the Michelins, there must be a version which is properly specked for our machines....or there are a bunch here running on borrowed time.
 
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:21 AM
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The Scorcher is for Dyna's and Sportsters. You need the Commander II's. Maybe a shop who actually knows about Harley's could help.
 
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:29 AM
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Just put an E-3 on the back to match the front.

Local indy is touting the Michelins...
 
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:48 AM
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Comparing the tires on the Michelin and Dunlop websites, the Michelin Commander II and the oem Dunlop D402 have the same load/speed index.

the Commander II is the correct tire for HD Baggers. maybe it was in your head?
 
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Old 10-20-2013, 09:57 AM
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74h on the front, 77h on the rear. Gave away my brand new commander 2's They were correctly rated but rode like ****.
 
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Madness04
Back in the spring I chose to put new tires on my 04 RK. The local tire shop recommended Michelin Commander ll tires, and gave me a good price so I went with them. From day one I knew these tires made me feel a bit uneasy but couldn't really figure why. Long story short, I'm going back to the factory Dunlop tires after finding that the Michelins aren't load rated for the weight of my bagger and I was getting sidewall flex that gave me a ride like I was on ice. Now, too late, and more $$ spent for a tire lesson I've figured how to shop for the right tires. The Michelin Commander ll tires may be fine for a sport-lighter weight bike but not for a heavy touring model. BTW, I had replaced my old Metzeler 880's with the Michelin's, and the 880's gave me over 25k miles when I took them off.
I've had the Michelin Commander II's on my bike since spring this past year. Way better tire than the stock Dunlop. Put over 8,000 miles on them and they show little wear. Went on a 1,000 trip in September and it rained almost all the way to my final destination. The tires handled great in the rain. Prior to that I went on a 5,000 mile trip and the tires were great.

How can you say that the Michelin Commander II is not load rated for a heavy bike when they are? Did you think to check the pressure?
 
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:26 AM
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I've never ridden Michelins.

BUT, I had Metz. 880's on a softail, and if the pressure wasn't spot-on, they would either feel soft, or feel like they were washing. That bike with those tires needed 41 front and 44 rear to feel good, then they stuck like glue.

I would agree to adjust air pressure and find what works...

And YMMV.
 
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:31 AM
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I've got 4, 000 miles on the Commander II's and they're light years better than Dunlops.

Quieter, handle better, corner better, their grip on all roads is vastly better than the Dunlops. Breaking has improved as well.

YMMV!
 
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'05 RK.....loved my Avon Venoms, and now running the Metzlers880, which i guess they don't make anymore...will have to wait for the WWW 888's to come out, but i won't need them for a few thousand miles. Both tires stick like glue and make me feel much more under control.....IMHO.
 


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