TC Cam upgrade, 204 or 211?
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TC Cam upgrade, 204 or 211?
Looking to get a bit more power without compromising ridability and reliability.
My local dealer says they have been putting 211 cams in TC 88 and guarantees me it’s the biggest bang for the buck. I believe him, but the SE catalogue recommends the 211 for 103 c.i and bigger.
My local dealer tells me to ignore that, he said with 211 and the custom tune they will do with the dyno and using a SE race tuner that I should go from about 72 ft lbs of torque at the wheel to 89. Without any wear and tear issues. I already have the stage I intake and V&H slip ons
They guarantee the install but I am still curious if any one else has gone this road. I do not want to spend to much $ on this bike because, in a few years I hope to get a SE Touring bike.
This one is a 06 RK 5 speed. It handle great and has started first time every time and never sputtered even once, it has ran great, but lacking a bit in power. Of course it did not feel that way when I first bought it but after a couple years of it does, ha ha, go figure.
Based on forums I have read its hard to tell if the bootom end lose torque or not.
Anyway any insight on a 211 cam possibly over caming the TC 88 is welcome.
Thanks
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My local dealer says they have been putting 211 cams in TC 88 and guarantees me it’s the biggest bang for the buck. I believe him, but the SE catalogue recommends the 211 for 103 c.i and bigger.
My local dealer tells me to ignore that, he said with 211 and the custom tune they will do with the dyno and using a SE race tuner that I should go from about 72 ft lbs of torque at the wheel to 89. Without any wear and tear issues. I already have the stage I intake and V&H slip ons
They guarantee the install but I am still curious if any one else has gone this road. I do not want to spend to much $ on this bike because, in a few years I hope to get a SE Touring bike.
This one is a 06 RK 5 speed. It handle great and has started first time every time and never sputtered even once, it has ran great, but lacking a bit in power. Of course it did not feel that way when I first bought it but after a couple years of it does, ha ha, go figure.
Based on forums I have read its hard to tell if the bootom end lose torque or not.
Anyway any insight on a 211 cam possibly over caming the TC 88 is welcome.
Thanks
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I went with the 203's. I wanted the power in the low to mid range where it is the most useful for me. Also went from 96" to 103". I have talked with a couple of riders that have gone with the 203 cams on 88" motors and had very good results. Don't get too caught up in the peak numbers. Where they occur and how long they carry as more important than peak numbers.
You're riding a heavy touring bike, so torque in the lower rpm's will play a big role in how the bike performs. The SE catalog gives you a good idea of where their cams make power. Compare that information to your goals and pick the cam that meets your needs. You'll be very happy with the results if you follow that path. Good luck
You're riding a heavy touring bike, so torque in the lower rpm's will play a big role in how the bike performs. The SE catalog gives you a good idea of where their cams make power. Compare that information to your goals and pick the cam that meets your needs. You'll be very happy with the results if you follow that path. Good luck
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I went with the 211 as my first internal engine upgrade with pipes & an air cleaner & got great numbers high 80's on both torque & horsepower, Great pull right around your 3000 rpm band which is right under what most people cruise at so when ever you want to grab a hand full you got some nice get up & GO !!!!
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i put the 204s in my 06 dyna when it was a stock 88, it ran strong 3000 up, weak 3000 down. i put a 95 kit in with 9.5 compression ,dynoed at 90 h.p. 95 trq. i have been told my 95 doesnt have enough compression to run 211s, i wouldnt think a stock 88 with 8.8 compression would run very with 211s.
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If you are putting this in an otherwise stock engine, and really want to stay with an HD cam that has the characteristics needed for a bagger, that is torque below 3000 rpm and prefereably right off idle, go with the 203. Both the 204 and 211 really like a bump in compression to really get the maximum out of them. There are other better choices if you are willing to move away from HD such as the Headquarters HQ 0034
Last edited by Dalton; 11-30-2008 at 10:39 AM. Reason: Wrong number due to model year.
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If you are putting this in an otherwise stock engine, and really want to stay with an HD cam that has the characteristics needed for a bagger, that is torque below 3000 rpm and prefereably right off idle, go with the 203. Both the 204 and 211 really like a bump in compression to really get the maximum out of them. There are other better choices if you are willing to move away from HD such as the Headquarters HQ 500
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Looking to get a bit more power without compromising ridability and reliability.
My local dealer says they have been putting 211 cams in TC 88 and guarantees me it’s the biggest bang for the buck. I believe him, but the SE catalogue recommends the 211 for 103 c.i and bigger.
My local dealer tells me to ignore that, he said with 211 and the custom tune they will do with the dyno and using a SE race tuner that I should go from about 72 ft lbs of torque at the wheel to 89. Without any wear and tear issues. I already have the stage I intake and V&H slip ons
They guarantee the install but I am still curious if any one else has gone this road. I do not want to spend to much $ on this bike because, in a few years I hope to get a SE Touring bike.
This one is a 06 RK 5 speed. It handle great and has started first time every time and never sputtered even once, it has ran great, but lacking a bit in power. Of course it did not feel that way when I first bought it but after a couple years of it does, ha ha, go figure.
Based on forums I have read its hard to tell if the bootom end lose torque or not.
Anyway any insight on a 211 cam possibly over caming the TC 88 is welcome.
Thanks
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My local dealer says they have been putting 211 cams in TC 88 and guarantees me it’s the biggest bang for the buck. I believe him, but the SE catalogue recommends the 211 for 103 c.i and bigger.
My local dealer tells me to ignore that, he said with 211 and the custom tune they will do with the dyno and using a SE race tuner that I should go from about 72 ft lbs of torque at the wheel to 89. Without any wear and tear issues. I already have the stage I intake and V&H slip ons
They guarantee the install but I am still curious if any one else has gone this road. I do not want to spend to much $ on this bike because, in a few years I hope to get a SE Touring bike.
This one is a 06 RK 5 speed. It handle great and has started first time every time and never sputtered even once, it has ran great, but lacking a bit in power. Of course it did not feel that way when I first bought it but after a couple years of it does, ha ha, go figure.
Based on forums I have read its hard to tell if the bootom end lose torque or not.
Anyway any insight on a 211 cam possibly over caming the TC 88 is welcome.
Thanks
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For your '06RK, I agree with Dalton! Take a good look at the Headquarters HQ-0034 and opt for a TTS MasterTune vs. the SE Race Tuner (SERT).
http://www.head-quarters-usa.com/camshaftstwin.html#
Last edited by WVULTRA; 11-27-2008 at 09:04 PM.
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TripleB:
For your '06RK, I agree with Dalton! Take a good look at the Headquarters HQ-0034 and opt for a TTS MasterTune vs. the SE Race Tuner (SERT).
http://www.head-quarters-usa.com/camshaftstwin.html#
For your '06RK, I agree with Dalton! Take a good look at the Headquarters HQ-0034 and opt for a TTS MasterTune vs. the SE Race Tuner (SERT).
http://www.head-quarters-usa.com/camshaftstwin.html#
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