SE 113" kit dynoed. Is something wrong?
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SE 113" kit dynoed. Is something wrong?
Just dynoed Rocker with SE 113" kit including SE 110+ heads, SE-264cam, 50mm TB, SEST, heavy breather and V&H Indy 2 into 1 pipe.
Results: 117,5 rwhp and 119 ft-lb witch I think is normal for this kind of combo? BUT torque curve has quite big dip at 3-3,5K:
2500 - 100ftlb
3500 - 95ftlb
4500 - 119ftlb (max)
I think there is 10ftlb missing at 3.5K. AFR ratio is OK (about 13) all the way.
Any idea what could cause the dip? Pipe? Cam? Something else? I am sure SE did not plan this kit like this..
Results: 117,5 rwhp and 119 ft-lb witch I think is normal for this kind of combo? BUT torque curve has quite big dip at 3-3,5K:
2500 - 100ftlb
3500 - 95ftlb
4500 - 119ftlb (max)
I think there is 10ftlb missing at 3.5K. AFR ratio is OK (about 13) all the way.
Any idea what could cause the dip? Pipe? Cam? Something else? I am sure SE did not plan this kit like this..
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What pipe, and what is the ccp??
Scott
Scott
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HARLEY-DAVIDSON SPEED & SERVICE CENTER
5225 SOUTH MAIN ST., MUNNSVILLE, N.Y. 13409
Sales/Support 315-495-6650
www.hillsidecycle.com
Walk-in Retail Showroom
Complete H-D Machine Shop
Case & cylinder boring
Complete Cylinder Head Shop
High-Performance Engine Kits
Crank Rebuilding
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Pipe is V&H Indy Competition series 2 to 1.
Link to pipe: http://www.vanceandhines.com/product...ompseries.html
What do you mean by ccp? Do not know the acronym.
Link to pipe: http://www.vanceandhines.com/product...ompseries.html
What do you mean by ccp? Do not know the acronym.
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Here in Finland there is not so much competence on SEST tuning. The AFR was first way too rich at 3-4K. We got that sorted out but it did not have any major effect to TQ curve dip. Sure it helped a bit.
It would be extremely intreresting to compare SEST map on some other SE 113" kitted bike.. With SEST base map (176NL-005) the dip was about 4ft-lb worse than it is now afer tune. VE tables where altered about 7-10 units down at 3-4K and on 40-100 throttle positions. From 4 to 5.5K VE tables where moved about 5 units up. Some minor changes was also done to AFR-map. Other than that SEST map is quite stock. Iddle richment by AFR table was also done.
Do you guys feel that is all about SEST tune to cure this? I am starting to think that combo with 50mm tb, V&H 2" tubes and SE-264 is not so good match at 3,5..
If someone has 113" kitted bike with SEST and somewhat close parts combination I would be more than happy to exchange maps and compare them...
EDIT: SEST map number
It would be extremely intreresting to compare SEST map on some other SE 113" kitted bike.. With SEST base map (176NL-005) the dip was about 4ft-lb worse than it is now afer tune. VE tables where altered about 7-10 units down at 3-4K and on 40-100 throttle positions. From 4 to 5.5K VE tables where moved about 5 units up. Some minor changes was also done to AFR-map. Other than that SEST map is quite stock. Iddle richment by AFR table was also done.
Do you guys feel that is all about SEST tune to cure this? I am starting to think that combo with 50mm tb, V&H 2" tubes and SE-264 is not so good match at 3,5..
If someone has 113" kitted bike with SEST and somewhat close parts combination I would be more than happy to exchange maps and compare them...
EDIT: SEST map number
Last edited by ruostekasa; 08-08-2009 at 10:27 AM.
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