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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 10:15 AM
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Just dynoed Rocker with SE 113" kit including SE 110+ heads, SE-264cam, 50mm TB, SEST, heavy breather and V&H Indy 2 into 1 pipe.

Results: 117,5 rwhp and 119 ft-lb witch I think is normal for this kind of combo? BUT torque curve has quite big dip at 3-3,5K:

2500 - 100ftlb
3500 - 95ftlb
4500 - 119ftlb (max)

I think there is 10ftlb missing at 3.5K. AFR ratio is OK (about 13) all the way.

Any idea what could cause the dip? Pipe? Cam? Something else? I am sure SE did not plan this kit like this..
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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What pipe, and what is the ccp??
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Pipe is V&H Indy Competition series 2 to 1.

Link to pipe: http://www.vanceandhines.com/product...ompseries.html

What do you mean by ccp? Do not know the acronym.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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cold cranking pressure
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Screaming eagle cat 09 shows the 113 with 260 games being 110 tq at 3500 and rising. I am at @ 110 tq at 3500 with 251 cams.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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I do not know the ccp. CR should be 10.5 with this kit and 264 cam comes as std with this kit.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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it could be the tune causing the dip in the power. how good is the tuner that set up your bike?
 
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Here in Finland there is not so much competence on SEST tuning. The AFR was first way too rich at 3-4K. We got that sorted out but it did not have any major effect to TQ curve dip. Sure it helped a bit.

It would be extremely intreresting to compare SEST map on some other SE 113" kitted bike.. With SEST base map (176NL-005) the dip was about 4ft-lb worse than it is now afer tune. VE tables where altered about 7-10 units down at 3-4K and on 40-100 throttle positions. From 4 to 5.5K VE tables where moved about 5 units up. Some minor changes was also done to AFR-map. Other than that SEST map is quite stock. Iddle richment by AFR table was also done.

Do you guys feel that is all about SEST tune to cure this? I am starting to think that combo with 50mm tb, V&H 2" tubes and SE-264 is not so good match at 3,5..

If someone has 113" kitted bike with SEST and somewhat close parts combination I would be more than happy to exchange maps and compare them...

EDIT: SEST map number
 

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Your numbers are better then mine and I'm running a 58ml TB with 266E cams with V&H Chrome Pro pipes and mine numbers are 115.83 HP 106.43 Torque. I'm taking her to a new tuner, not a happy camper. Now I fully understand when people talk about who to tune your bike.
 
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Should not have that dip, it's probably in the tune
 
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