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Old 12-02-2013, 07:21 PM
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Hello,
Does anyone have a screenshot of the VE Tables for the Front and rear Cyl
on a stock 2011 Sportster 1200
Just curious as to what is being adjusted with my controller.
Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by awilson40
Hello,
Does anyone have a screenshot of the VE Tables for the Front and rear Cyl
on a stock 2011 Sportster 1200
Just curious as to what is being adjusted with my controller.
Thanks
IIRC, that "tuner" does nothing for the VE tables.

As for a screenshot, I'm sure you're aware that each bike has its own VE values. But when I get back to my other computer, I could clip a pic of an example of the tables....just don't wait up all night waiting for it.
 
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Thank a lot Marine. I appreciate it.
I know my tuner doesnt alter the VE Tables but adds a % on top of the VE table.
I would just like to see what its adding that % to.
Thanks again.
 
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Originally Posted by awilson40
Thank a lot Marine. I appreciate it.
I know my tuner doesnt alter the VE Tables but adds a % on top of the VE table.
I would just like to see what its adding that % to.
Thanks again.
No worries...sorry, but I still don't have my other computer for the screenshot.

To clarify, what do you mean by "adds a % on top of the VE table"?

I was under the impression this type of tuner only added fuel which has nothing to do with the VE's.

Just trying to make sure I understood your original question.
 
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Originally Posted by Pine Tree
No worries...sorry, but I still don't have my other computer for the screenshot.

To clarify, what do you mean by "adds a % on top of the VE table"?

I was under the impression this type of tuner only added fuel which has nothing to do with the VE's.

Just trying to make sure I understood your original question.
You are correct PT. This device only allows for fuel and timing adjustments aside from a couple of other things like adjusting rev limiter. The device is based off the DJ PCIII platform and has no way of manipulating the VE tables or adding any percentages on top of them. I think what the OP may be getting confused with is the % of fuel and or timing that gets added or subtracted depending on riding conditions and settings.

Here's a shot of my stock 103 VE tables FWIW. Well not really stock but close to it.
 
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I probably am confused and am probably asking for the wrong thing.
Its my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong, If you have a tuner, like a Power Vision, that you write new Fuel Tables to the ECU, then you can save the stock tables and view them.
A piggy back tuner, like mine ( which only adds-subracts fuel, cant adjust timing) just adds or subtracts extra pulse width time in the cell that its at at that currect time based on Throttle position and RPM.
That why I want to see the stock tables, just to see what is being added where ?
Perhaps its the Fuel Tables I need instead ??
Clear as mud ?
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...That why I want to see the stock tables, just to see what is being added where ?
Perhaps its the Fuel Tables I need instead ??
Clear as mud ?
Thanks
OK, try this...
 
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Thanks Pine Tree, I think that is the target AFR table.
I think I need to quit tweaking mine and just ride the crap out of it.
This is what happens when the weather and daylight doesnt let me ride.
I think too much.
 
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Originally Posted by awilson40
Thanks Pine Tree, I think that is the target AFR table.
I think I need to quit tweaking mine and just ride the crap out of it.
This is what happens when the weather and daylight doesnt let me ride.
I think too much.
You're welcome...was that the table you needed?

And there's certainly nothing wrong with gaining more information and understanding as to how these systems work.

As you become more familiar with them, you'll start to see what's truthful and what's a bit of a stretch of the truth (read load of crap).
 
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It is interesting. I's a bit different than when I was digging into the EPROM and modifying the tables on my old porsche 944 turbo.
What got me asking this question was reading this post

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...th-mytune.html

Those were the maps that I thought I needed.
Thanks again.
 


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