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Default New to touring bikes - 3 hole oil change due

As the title says I’m new to touring bikes, have ridden Sportster my entire life and now that I have started taking more trips I decided to upgrade.

Picked up a used 2015 SGS a few weeks ago with about 4500 miles on it. She’s at about 5,200 now. Enjoying every bit! I planned on doing the full 3 hole fluid change as part of her 5,000 mile service. However in these ~700 miles I have noticed one thing I would like to try to address it with this fluid change. Hopefully y’all can help me answer these questions

- 1st gear whine. From what I can tell it’s due to the cut of the gears in 1st and 5th. I’ve read that Redline Shockproof will quiet her down. Is there any compatibility issue if I drain and use this if some old Harley fluid is still left in there?

- Never owned a bike before with a hydraulic clutch - is there anything special I have to do with the reservoir up top when changing the fluid from assumably Harley Davidson to a newer on? I don’t think the two systems are necessarily fluid sharing but I want to be sure.

- Engine oil - I assume it is the Harley Dino oil. I plan to go amsoil v twin full syn or possibly Mobil one. Has anyone ran this and what are your thoughts? Will be using a Harley oil filter

My big concern is using specific fluid for the different holes. While Harley calls out that syn 3 is good for everyone I have to think that a specific fluid is actually better than a one stop shop. Heard a lot about redline but never used it.

Anything helps! Thanks!
 
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Syn 3, in my opinion is good - but don't use it in all 3 holes. The transmission should get the Harley Formula. In fact, they just came out with a new formula Vis is 160 - so, it is like a syn oil.
 
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Redline shockproof should help to quiet your tranny a bit has for the rest use what you can afford oils are about the same in quality i have been using the Syn 3 oil in all three holes but this time around i am going to look some different and a little bit cheaper. Don't get me wrong HD makes good stuff but your going to pay for it.



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Engine Oil'Amsoil 20w50....trannny 'Amsoil Severe Gear'.....Primary-HD Formula +.
 
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- 1st gear whine. From what I can tell it’s due to the cut of the gears in 1st and 5th. I’ve read that Redline Shockproof will quiet her down. Is there any compatibility issue if I drain and use this if some old Harley fluid is still left in there?
Use Shockproof. It has a host of happy users on HDF, one of em being me. Its great stuff and quiets things down as you suspect. There are NO compatibility issues with any of the oils in common use, even a dino / synthetic mix is ok. Truth be known, many oils marketed as synthetic are mixes anyway.


- Never owned a bike before with a hydraulic clutch - is there anything special I have to do with the reservoir up top when changing the fluid from assumably Harley Davidson to a newer on? I don’t think the two systems are necessarily fluid sharing but I want to be sure.
Dunno.


- Engine oil - I assume it is the Harley Dino oil. I plan to go amsoil v twin full syn or possibly Mobil one. Has anyone ran this and what are your thoughts? Will be using a Harley oil filter
Its all good oil. If you are going to "pay" for a "full" synthetic you'll want to be sure that is what you're getting. Amsoil is and so is RedLine. These are by no means the only brands. Synthetics use either Esters or PAO as a base oil, (70% of can contents or so). Companies which do this usually brag the fact, (on the can), because these are expensive and justify the prices they charge for their products. Beware so called "Synthetics" whose formulation is so goddamn special that the actual contents cannot be divulged under pain of death, (syn 3 ). They're probably using hydrocracked dino oil as a base. There is nothing wrong with these latter oils except that you should be paying less for them than for a full synthetic oil, which they aren't. Last, use MC specific oil or one rated for diesel engines. These tend still to be very high in ZDDP content, (good for your engine), whereas automotive oils of the same brand have little ZDDP content, generally speaking, owing to EPA constraints within the greater industry.

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Originally Posted by astolt12
As the title says I’m new to touring bikes, have ridden Sportster my entire life and now that I have started taking more trips I decided to upgrade.

Picked up a used 2015 SGS a few weeks ago with about 4500 miles on it. She’s at about 5,200 now. Enjoying every bit! I planned on doing the full 3 hole fluid change as part of her 5,000 mile service. However in these ~700 miles I have noticed one thing I would like to try to address it with this fluid change. Hopefully y’all can help me answer these questions

- 1st gear whine. From what I can tell it’s due to the cut of the gears in 1st and 5th. I’ve read that Redline Shockproof will quiet her down. Is there any compatibility issue if I drain and use this if some old Harley fluid is still left in there?

- Never owned a bike before with a hydraulic clutch - is there anything special I have to do with the reservoir up top when changing the fluid from assumably Harley Davidson to a newer on? I don’t think the two systems are necessarily fluid sharing but I want to be sure.

- Engine oil - I assume it is the Harley Dino oil. I plan to go amsoil v twin full syn or possibly Mobil one. Has anyone ran this and what are your thoughts? Will be using a Harley oil filter

My big concern is using specific fluid for the different holes. While Harley calls out that syn 3 is good for everyone I have to think that a specific fluid is actually better than a one stop shop. Heard a lot about redline but never used it.

Anything helps! Thanks!
I just got a 2015 Ultra Limited and was curious about the gear whine as well. Also have the same question on the hydraulic clutch. Is there anything special that needs to be done?
 
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For the hydraulic clutch? Like what? It uses the same brake fluid that the brakes use. Not much to do there other then change the fluid when you think it needs it. As for gear whine, try different lubes in your primary and transmission.

I've been using Red Line in all three holes since my first service. Engine, primary and transmission are still doing their respective jobs.
 
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Originally Posted by astolt12
As the title says I’m new to touring bikes, have ridden Sportster my entire life and now that I have started taking more trips I decided to upgrade.

Picked up a used 2015 SGS a few weeks ago with about 4500 miles on it. She’s at about 5,200 now. Enjoying every bit! I planned on doing the full 3 hole fluid change as part of her 5,000 mile service. However in these ~700 miles I have noticed one thing I would like to try to address it with this fluid change. Hopefully y’all can help me answer these questions

- 1st gear whine. From what I can tell it’s due to the cut of the gears in 1st and 5th. I’ve read that Redline Shockproof will quiet her down. Is there any compatibility issue if I drain and use this if some old Harley fluid is still left in there?

- Never owned a bike before with a hydraulic clutch - is there anything special I have to do with the reservoir up top when changing the fluid from assumably Harley Davidson to a newer on? I don’t think the two systems are necessarily fluid sharing but I want to be sure.

- Engine oil - I assume it is the Harley Dino oil. I plan to go amsoil v twin full syn or possibly Mobil one. Has anyone ran this and what are your thoughts? Will be using a Harley oil filter

My big concern is using specific fluid for the different holes. While Harley calls out that syn 3 is good for everyone I have to think that a specific fluid is actually better than a one stop shop. Heard a lot about redline but never used it.

Anything helps! Thanks!
Run Amsoil in all three holes and change it every 10k.
 
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Originally Posted by astolt12
As the title says I’m new to touring bikes, have ridden Sportster my entire life and now that I have started taking more trips I decided to upgrade.

Picked up a used 2015 SGS a few weeks ago with about 4500 miles on it. She’s at about 5,200 now. Enjoying every bit! I planned on doing the full 3 hole fluid change as part of her 5,000 mile service. However in these ~700 miles I have noticed one thing I would like to try to address it with this fluid change. Hopefully y’all can help me answer these questions

- 1st gear whine. From what I can tell it’s due to the cut of the gears in 1st and 5th. I’ve read that Redline Shockproof will quiet her down. Is there any compatibility issue if I drain and use this if some old Harley fluid is still left in there?

- Never owned a bike before with a hydraulic clutch - is there anything special I have to do with the reservoir up top when changing the fluid from assumably Harley Davidson to a newer on? I don’t think the two systems are necessarily fluid sharing but I want to be sure.

- Engine oil - I assume it is the Harley Dino oil. I plan to go amsoil v twin full syn or possibly Mobil one. Has anyone ran this and what are your thoughts? Will be using a Harley oil filter

My big concern is using specific fluid for the different holes. While Harley calls out that syn 3 is good for everyone I have to think that a specific fluid is actually better than a one stop shop. Heard a lot about redline but never used it.

Anything helps! Thanks!
That first gear whine is normal so don't worry.
Use a good SYN for the engine.
Use a Harley Formula for the Primary.
Use Redline or Belray for the tranny.
Ask Service Dept about brake fluid Clutch.
 
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