Psa about DSP. This is a must read
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The purpose is to keep the dsp from just being a mainstream gotta have it. Again in the wrong hands does more harm than good. No intention to detour here but I have spent years getting settings in a certain way. Each setup varies but I have a baseline I know to start for each channel I have. What I do not want to see is 50 threads on how do I set my DSP , or my dsp doesn't work right it sounds horrible. Glad to help a FEW but am also not going to write a tutorial either.
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Bertk (02-02-2017)
#12
The purpose is to keep the dsp from just being a mainstream gotta have it. Again in the wrong hands does more harm than good. No intention to detour here but I have spent years getting settings in a certain way. Each setup varies but I have a baseline I know to start for each channel I have. What I do not want to see is 50 threads on how do I set my DSP , or my dsp doesn't work right it sounds horrible. Glad to help a FEW but am also not going to write a tutorial either.
#13
I'm agree 100%. My hopes are that in the near future I can package a DSP with a handful of my "go-to" set ups and have them either preset or that I can send the settings to a customer for those particular set ups. There's just too many variables -- either actual set up, or listening preference to have a canned setting for everyone, but I think I can have my preferred set up for a handful of what I would consider home run set ups. Kinda like canned maps for tuners...this should get you close but a Dyno gets you perfect. Otherwise I think you are correct there will be post that say this thing sucks, or why can't I get it to sound right, etc. and it's going to happen!! My vision is that at least with a BAL set up, you got your DSP base settings.
#14
Thats it. I'm putting 5 DSPs in my bike and it's gonna make my new J&M setup out of this world LOL!
Completely joking. I've messed around in a couple studios back in my rocker days and having control over the sound with Pro Tools on multi channel mixing boards with 32 and 48+ band EQs along with all of the other things can be daunting. Like said before, using a DSP may not be for everyone
Completely joking. I've messed around in a couple studios back in my rocker days and having control over the sound with Pro Tools on multi channel mixing boards with 32 and 48+ band EQs along with all of the other things can be daunting. Like said before, using a DSP may not be for everyone
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Bertk (02-02-2017)
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#17
Dsp's are a moot point unless you have the proper test and measuring equipment to set up your audio equipment chain and a clear understanding of how to do it. Actually, this goes for most analog gear too. Sure you can tune by ear but that's a joke if you're serious about attaining maximum benefits, your ear and a VOM won't come close to cutting it. In reality you would need a good oscilloscope, audio spectrum analyzer, a calibrated measuring microphone, tone generator, leveled white and pink noise generators and a power supply that replicates your bike's actual battery voltage and available current to get any real benefit out of any audio system. Anything else is just twisting ***** and level controls until your 'pleased' with the audio results. Tuning by ear/vom does not maximize your systems frequency response, dynamic range, power levels and overall system efficiency. You really DO need outboard test gear and technical knowledge to set your audio system right.
#18
Originally Posted by Ride my Seesaw
Dsp's are a moot point unless you have the proper test and measuring equipment to set up your audio equipment chain and a clear understanding of how to do it. Actually, this goes for most analog gear too. Sure you can tune by ear but that's a joke if you're serious about attaining maximum benefits, your ear and a VOM won't come close to cutting it. In reality you would need a good oscilloscope, audio spectrum analyzer, a calibrated measuring microphone, tone generator, leveled white and pink noise generators and a power supply that replicates your bike's actual battery voltage and available current to get any real benefit out of any audio system. Anything else is just twisting ***** and level controls until your 'pleased' with the audio results. Tuning by ear/vom does not maximize your systems frequency response, dynamic range, power levels and overall system efficiency. You really DO need outboard test gear and technical knowledge to set your audio system right.
Just sayin!!!
T
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2017M8 (09-05-2019)
#19
Then you've proven my point. As long as you're happy with the results you've achieved thusfar then that's all that matters. However your audio system's full potential has yet to have been met. It's only quantifiable by your happiness and satisfaction. So as I said earlier, it's a moot point.
Last edited by Ride my Seesaw; 03-27-2017 at 06:27 PM. Reason: Typo
#20
There is so much overkill here. Not everyone in here is trying to nor are they even interested in obtaining first place at a sound quality judging. Buy it, tune it to your liking whether by ear or test equipment, and go ride/enjoy it. There are guys in here that take this stuff to extremes and it's what they like to do, not everyone wants that. A DSP can be tuned very effectively without touching test equipment. Ex: Rockford 3Sixty.3 comes with a tuning CD just as some of the alpine, jl audio, etc. models do.
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load97 (03-14-2020)