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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 08:41 PM
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I went from a 14 ultra that I THOUGHT had stock system in it. I traded it in on a 2020 RG and figured it should be comparable, I was sorely mistaken, the sound of the road at 50ish and up you cant hear the radio, had it checked out and they said it was completely up to spec. so.... love the head unit, the rest SUCKS lol. ALMOST bought a used RF amp and 4 speakers @ 2/3 the new price last year but the guy sold them by the time I got back to the vendor in Sturgis with the money.

now money is a smidge tighter this year. I am looking for everything except a head unit, fairing and lower placements for under 1k (actually about 900 as I gotta pay for the flash to be done), LIGHTLY used or factory refurbs ok. me and my passenger must hear it clearly at 90-95 mph over loud pipes. I will do the install myself

I know this is asking a lot but I am sure it can be done if keeping away from the mega brand name pitfalls or catching them in deals. saw one youtube vid last year, that his "budget" build was better than the high end build by far, but cant find that video again where he says what was in it.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2021 | 09:39 PM
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One option within your budget is the stinger amp or the SD800 evox for a bit more, and 2 pair of mmats 601cx. Stinger or SD will run about 3 to 400, then the mmats are around 220 a pair water treated.

You'll still need an amp wiring kit to power the amp for around 25 bucks, Flashing the HU shouldn't be more than 50 bucks. Some dealers can do that. Also a pac sni-35 for 10 bucks to convert speaker level to RCA.
 
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New evox 800x4 are 450 alone
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 08:26 AM
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No they're not. I don't beleive I paid that for mine, I'd have to check my invoice.

Hey OP, look up Agressive Auido.

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Im really leaning towards stinger for the amp, they hold their power better at the higher resistances and have a much better SNR to boot. and found one for 270ish open box return with full warranty included
for speakers I am thinking arc 602 but would like to find state side GZ sales, even if I do arcs on top and GZCF 6.5SPL lowers (depending on price) or might just bridge and run the GZCF 6.5SPLs in fairing (it would save me the price of the lowers for now too). would like to find some gently used GZ yellow baskets.
The Mmats response range seems a bit lacking comparatively to the other options.

will be picking up the pac sni-35 as well

note on the flashing of the HU, there is only one audio shop around here that has the software for it and all of the HD dealers send you to them. if you buy outside of them and are not sent by one of the HD dealers for a warranty specific issue, they end up charging 100-125 for the flash.

[edit] the EVOX power handling is fine, I was looking up the EVO and not the X variant, marginal difference between stinger and SD. but cant seem to find the evoX anywhere for under 430ish. so for the 160 dollars I'll drop 7 watts per channel. the SNR is still way better on the stinger.
 

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I'd pick the mmats over the arcs and the gzs over both, but are about 50 bucks or so more a pair.

The sd is a better amp than the stinger but stinger will def keep your fm reception of thats important.

You wanted to stay in a budget, so that was why I suggested those. Theres always better but this set up will be very loud and clear. The mmats don't play as low as the gzs but I still think they have some warmth to them. Gzs may require a little more power but again can play lower. Depending on how much power your give them, and how low you set the crossovers you might consider adding a dsp
 
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I'd pick the mmats over the arcs and the gzs over both, but are about 50 bucks or so more a pair.

The sd is a better amp than the stinger but stinger will def keep your fm reception of thats important.

You wanted to stay in a budget, so that was why I suggested those. Theres always better but this set up will be very loud and clear. The mmats don't play as low as the gzs but I still think they have some warmth to them. Gzs may require a little more power but again can play lower. Depending on how much power your give them, and how low you set the crossovers you might consider adding a dsp
would a stinger 700 push 4x GZ hard enough? honestly the largest part of leaning stinger is that 160 dollars difference lol. which means more head room for speaker budget.
I am very eclectic which means I use a very wide range of frequencies. Rap, Rock (new and "classic"), a smidge of country, and have even played "diva's dance" occasionally.

from my understanding SNR was related to hiss/hum in the amplification itself and not just interference from the motor. like if I turn up my house stereo up high enough there is some "white noise" just from the amplification processes

I cant believe Im gonna say this but I MIGHT have to go for a cheaper tour pack to allow for stereo budget :/ but then again I only use the tour pack occasionally...
 
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would a stinger 700 push 4x GZ hard enough? honestly the largest part of leaning stinger is that 160 dollars difference lol. which means more head room for speaker budget.
I am very eclectic which means I use a very wide range of frequencies. Rap, Rock (new and "classic"), a smidge of country, and have even played "diva's dance" occasionally.

from my understanding SNR was related to hiss/hum in the amplification itself and not just interference from the motor. like if I turn up my house stereo up high enough there is some "white noise" just from the amplification processes

I cant believe Im gonna say this but I MIGHT have to go for a cheaper tour pack to allow for stereo budget :/ but then again I only use the tour pack occasionally...
I'm no pro and maybe someone can chime in, but I don’t think the stinger would be enough for 4 gzs.
 
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For an RG that Stinger/GZ combo is not going to be enough once you get up to highway speeds. Those GZ are gonna be lost in the wind on the highway on an RG unless you are pushing 200-300 watts to each of them. At that budget the MMATS I think will be your best bet. I did a MMATS setup powered by an 800.4s on a friends bike about two years ago and I was very impressed with it. At about 150 watts it was very loud and clear at highway speeds with no tuning just a simple -12db at 100HZ HPF. I think you would get similar results with the Stinger. The only real downside with MMATS is if you like to listen to a lot of hip-hop or other bass heavy music they don't really play that well below 100hz.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 03:49 PM
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You could always do the gzs up front with the sd 800 and mmats in the tourpak for the boss. Lol

But like dabears said, those mmats will get plenty loud. No problem hearing them at any speed.
 
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