15% ethanol mix
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You're welcome to buy all the ethanol and new gaskets, hoses, etc that you like.
"Easily available?" Unfortunately for me, due to EPA regulations the nearest station that is even allowed to sell non-ethanol gasoline is 50 miles away so I'm essentially forced to buy it and pay for the consequences in poor mileage, carb rebuilds, hose kits, etc. Yeah, I just love the freedom of choice provided by our politicians and the ethanol lobbyists.
"Easily available?" Unfortunately for me, due to EPA regulations the nearest station that is even allowed to sell non-ethanol gasoline is 50 miles away so I'm essentially forced to buy it and pay for the consequences in poor mileage, carb rebuilds, hose kits, etc. Yeah, I just love the freedom of choice provided by our politicians and the ethanol lobbyists.
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Ethanol is another loser bought to us by the US government, E90 is the limit, E85 is going to wreck havoc. it's corrosive ****, Our only hope is that the auto industry will come up with some good additives, I run the Lucas Ethanol additive which is designed to fight the corrosion,
really it's only a problem if the gas sits for more than a week or 2, but hect, isn't all gas a week or 2 old by the time is t gets to your tank?
Do some reading on the issue..
http://www.equipmentworld.com/e-10-a...our-fuel-pump/
and then watch this 12 second video for a full explanation.
really it's only a problem if the gas sits for more than a week or 2, but hect, isn't all gas a week or 2 old by the time is t gets to your tank?
Do some reading on the issue..
http://www.equipmentworld.com/e-10-a...our-fuel-pump/
and then watch this 12 second video for a full explanation.
Last edited by LunaticFringe; Jan 11, 2015 at 03:50 PM.
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I'm kinda stuck on reality.
Talk to any trusted small engine mechanic,,
Of course maybe your right, if you don't have a "trusted" mechanic they're not really going to say anything bad,, why would they remove the possibility of future repair work.
You wanna run the s**tuff and pretend you reap all these benefits, go right ahead.
I'm sure you'll be able to rationalize the repair costs are the result of some other problem.
Have you noticed your the only one expounding the benefits of ethanol fuels.(?)
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I have, and also to Detroit fuel system engineers.
E85 started dominating pump gas power shootouts about 5 years ago, so badly that many shootouts no longer allow it to be used in the "pump gas" category.
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Well I glad to see your finally stepping up to the truth of your arguments here,, For E85 to work as a race fuel,, you need to dump 30% more fuel into the compression stroke,, That's not something that's done with most street bikes and far from any modification anyone is going to do to a stock or even stage1-2-3 modifications for street HD. I don't know what they do in Michigan, but here in Minn most guy's avoid not just E85 but oxygenated fuels in general in their bikes, snowmobiles, jet ski's, Outboards and other small engines like the plague. We have non-oxy 93 octane fuel available all over the place. I'm not sure what marketing literature you been subject too all these years for E85 and ethanol fuels, but it's just a commonly known fact among those that use small engine recreation vehicles here in Minn that ethanol is bad news for long term engine maintenance. As a matter of fact E85 is not an economically or an environmentally friendly fuel,, sure it all looks good when the final product is used,, but they have been very successful in hiding the production facts. Corn is planted, harvested, transported with heavy equipment using diesel fuel and it takes 3 gallons of water to make a gallon of E85, aquifers nation wide are being depleted buy Ethanol plants and none would be viable without government subsidies. The entire E85/Ethanol fallacy/myth is being perpetuated by "Take the Blue Pill" short sighted liberals that are chauffeured in large V8 gas burning Limousines.
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Better "Warp" some more aluminum foil around your head, something's leaking.
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You guys are a riot! You'd rather live under a rock than learn anything new? 
Here's a link to one high-performance shop that gives a little basic information about E85.
http://dbperformancetuning.com/cat/p...ID=25&CDpath=8
It starts out,
"E85 is an extremely popular fuel these days for the performance enthusiast......
Our customers and shop have winning vehicles competing with E85 in drag, autocross and road race events. For those that drive on the street, we have many successful tunes/conversions running year round through all seasonal conditions. Our customers are passionate about E85 because it performs equal to or better than a high octane race gas (110+) with the ability to run it every day of the week without breaking the bank."
There are many more sites and forums, some showing results of back-to-back dyno pulls on pump premium and E-85, and race gas and E85, showing gains as high as 100 horsepower and more.
But hey, I guess some people will always need to believe that ethanol is the boogeyman, because their buddy Gomer told them so.
Here's a link to one high-performance shop that gives a little basic information about E85.
http://dbperformancetuning.com/cat/p...ID=25&CDpath=8
It starts out,
"E85 is an extremely popular fuel these days for the performance enthusiast......
Our customers and shop have winning vehicles competing with E85 in drag, autocross and road race events. For those that drive on the street, we have many successful tunes/conversions running year round through all seasonal conditions. Our customers are passionate about E85 because it performs equal to or better than a high octane race gas (110+) with the ability to run it every day of the week without breaking the bank."
There are many more sites and forums, some showing results of back-to-back dyno pulls on pump premium and E-85, and race gas and E85, showing gains as high as 100 horsepower and more.
But hey, I guess some people will always need to believe that ethanol is the boogeyman, because their buddy Gomer told them so.
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You either can't understand or simply don't care that I really could give a rats a$$ about the performance benefits of using an octane booster.
I prefer to purchase my horsepower in ways other than using a corrosive additive. Unless your 1,000hp motor was a 150hp motor that was magically transformed when switched to ethanol. If my Harley suddenly goes from 70hp to 250hp by using your magic juice I'll deal with the increased maintenance costs. But, I haven't noticed this despite running nothing but 10% ethanol for the last few years. I have however noticed the poor fuel economy in all of my vehicles.
I prefer to purchase my horsepower in ways other than using a corrosive additive. Unless your 1,000hp motor was a 150hp motor that was magically transformed when switched to ethanol. If my Harley suddenly goes from 70hp to 250hp by using your magic juice I'll deal with the increased maintenance costs. But, I haven't noticed this despite running nothing but 10% ethanol for the last few years. I have however noticed the poor fuel economy in all of my vehicles.