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Old 06-24-2017, 08:36 AM
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Consider that you do not have compression releases on your bike. How far do you want to go with this motor? Last four sets of cams friends and I have had installed have all been S&S E-Z starts; much nicer on hot hopped up engines...no kickback, no aftermarket starters, cables, batteries etc. All directed at the symptom of hard starting, not the cause.
Last build I had done was on my 96" 08 Fat Bob. I tour a lot (don't like the FLH's, BTW) and went with the HD 103 drop on cylinders, cast pistons and S&S E-Z start cams. Perfect for me. I think they have 110 kits that drop on now, too. I'm NOT a believer in headwork; unless you are going for a higher RPM engine or all the way to 110 it's a lot of money. Check out some dyno sheets as well...a lot of claims will be made but I prefer to see a dyno run. Also; I purchased a SEPST for tuning. They're discontinued by HD but still out there. In conclusion; HD has most of the parts you'd want...nice when you travel far from home to have a combo that over 800 dealers are gonna be familiar with, rather than another shade tree aftermarket concoction.
 
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Originally Posted by Nick561400
well it's for fueling 543 cams AND a 107 bore kit if that makes a difference I should of clarified
i still ill think it's high. Before I installed my 117 kit I was curious what HD charged. They said 8 hours for everything in the kit, but no tuning. That includes the Pistons/cylinders, cams/lifters/pushrods, throttle body, injectors, and everything else that is included in the kit. Cams alone are not that difficult or time consuming. And if you only do cams, they will likely cut the pushrods and install adjustable rods so they don't have to pull the rocker boxes and valve train. They want more just to do cams than the HD dealer wants to do the whole damn kit. I'd do it yourself or find a different shop. Just my opinion
 
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Old 06-25-2017, 08:41 AM
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If this is anything like the stuff he used to write for AI, it is likely a waste of money..
any other suggestions on books/sites I can read up on?
 
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My opinion and my opinion only. For the amount of money you will end up spending and the hp/tq you will gain, It's just not worth it. If you like to ride aggressive, get yourself a metric sport bike. Dollar for dollar, you will get more out of the metric. Again, just my .02 cents.
 
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Originally Posted by Rubline
My opinion and my opinion only. For the amount of money you will end up spending and the hp/tq you will gain, It's just not worth it. If you like to ride aggressive, get yourself a metric sport bike. Dollar for dollar, you will get more out of the metric. Again, just my .02 cents.
hahaha this is funny was just thinking of just spending the money I'd spend on the engine and just buying a crotch rocket to beat up maybe I'll go a different route with my build but who knows I change my mind more than o change my socks
 
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Originally Posted by Nick561400
any other suggestions on books/sites I can read up on?
What you you want to understand. Theory? What is required of a cam change for an HD? Or you you simply want to pick a cam that works well in more motorcycle and move on?
 
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
What you you want to understand. Theory? What is required of a cam change for an HD? Or you you simply want to pick a cam that works well in more motorcycle and move on?
theory and the cam change
 
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Originally Posted by Nick561400
theory and the cam change
For easy read on theory, this is one of the best.. Can't get the book new tho..

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/deskto...&idiq=19161104


Another that is way more technical is:

Amazon Amazon

For the cam change, the service manual..

One thing to add, is that when changing the cam you will need to add a tuner of some sort that allows you to change the fueling and timing. depending on how things go, you might want to find someone to do this for you..
 
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
For easy read on theory, this is one of the best.. Can't get the book new tho..

https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/deskto...&idiq=19161104


Another that is way more technical is:

https://www.amazon.com/Internal-Comb...Z3X56BWDKBBHS0

For the cam change, the service manual..

One thing to add, is that when changing the cam you will need to add a tuner of some sort that allows you to change the fueling and timing. depending on how things go, you might want to find someone to do this for you..
nice I'll check out both I had ordered the clymers service manual last night I think if I'm gonna do this I'll do it myself over winter the majority of the price on this job is labor
 


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