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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 01:00 PM
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I am looking to put 2 over tubes on my '14 lowrider but I just want to know exactly what i need to buy to do that. Obviously i need longer tubes. is the only other thing i need is longer springs? can i keep everything thats currently in my forks now?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 01:35 PM
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You'd cut the pvc custom to the length needed as a shim or just put in 2" fork tube extensions instead of replacing them. https://www.denniskirk.com/cycle-vis...prd/585278.sku
 
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You can get longer springs OR a longer spacer. Basically the spring-plus-spacer length also needs to increase by 2 inches. The spacer can be made from some PVC pipe and so would be cheaper that a new spring. Keeping in mind that longer tubes don't result in longer suspension travel, the same springs will be fine.

Another option to extend your fork 2" is to get some Trackerdie 2" extended damper rods. I have no affiliation or experience with the product, but it looks well-built and is a lot cheaper than new sliders (my one concern would be that simply extending the damper rod will reduce the 'overlap' between the fork tube and the slider, and therefore increase the potential 'leverage' and stiction between the slider and tube...) https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/produ...amper-tube-kit. If you use the longer damper, the original springs and spacer can just be reused...

Tools: To dismantle the forks needs a few basic tools, but keep in mind that the forks are Japanese, so most fasteners are metric. Unusual tools you might need to buy are a 35mm socket for the fork cap, and a long 12mm allen driver for the damper rod bolts. An impact driver is useful for removing the damper dod bolt. You will need (or need to make) a fork seal installer/driver. Motion Pro makes a nice one, but you can use a piece of PVC pipe if you're careful. Torque wrench(es) are really important for proper reassembly.

Parts: As you'll need to dismantle/reassemble the forks, you should replace all the seals etc. James Gaskets makes a good fork rebuild kitwhich includes all the seals, spacers, gaskets etc. You'll need fresh fork oil. If you don't have a model-specific manual, I HIGHLY recommend getting one.

But that's about it. It's a fairly easy job, but take your time and be methodical and careful. If you get it wrong it can (in fact or probably will) be dangerous. There isnt a lot of stuff in the fork/brake/wheel area that isn't important to get right.

I hope that helps
 

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Originally Posted by Davdoodles
You can get longer springs OR a longer spacer. Basically the spring-plus-spacer length also needs to increase by 2 inches. The spacer can be made from some PVC pipe and so would be cheaper that a new spring. Keeping in mind that longer tubes don't result in longer suspension travel, the same springs will be fine.

Another option to extend your fork 2" is to get some Trackerdie 2" extended damper rods. I have no affiliation or experience with the product, but it looks well-built and is a lot cheaper than new sliders (my one concern would be that simply extending the damper rod will reduce the 'overlap' between the fork tube and the slider, and therefore increase the potential 'leverage' and stiction between the slider and tube...) https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/produ...amper-tube-kit. If you use the longer damper, the original springs and spacer can just be reused...

Tools: To dismantle the forks needs a few basic tools, but keep in mind that the forks are Japanese, so most fasteners are metric. Unusual tools you might need to buy are a 35mm socket for the fork cap, and a long 12mm allen driver for the damper rod bolts. An impact driver is useful for removing the damper dod bolt. You will need (or need to make) a fork seal installer/driver. Motion Pro makes a nice one, but you can use a piece of PVC pipe if you're careful. Torque wrench(es) are really important for proper reassembly.

Parts: As you'll need to dismantle/reassemble the forks, you should replace all the seals etc. James Gaskets makes a good fork rebuild kitwhich includes all the seals, spacers, gaskets etc. You'll need fresh fork oil. If you don't have a model-specific manual, I HIGHLY recommend getting one.

But that's about it. It's a fairly easy job, but take your time and be methodical and careful. If you get it wrong it can (in fact or probably will) be dangerous. There isnt a lot of stuff in the fork/brake/wheel area that isn't important to get right.

I hope that helps
Good advice. In order to be methodical and careful you're also going to need a fork vise like this Bikeservice Front Fork & Shock Vise | BS5000 | eBay and a vice to clamp it in. Also, a reliable way to measure fork oil.

I have the TrackerDie +2 dampers on my '17 FDXB and after 1 season of riding, I have had 0 issues with coil bind, etc. If you're going as far as tearing your forks down, do yourself a favor and drop in a RaceTech gold emulator at the same time. They're cheap and make a huge difference to comfort and control.


 
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Originally Posted by Davdoodles
You can get longer springs OR a longer spacer. Basically the spring-plus-spacer length also needs to increase by 2 inches. The spacer can be made from some PVC pipe and so would be cheaper that a new spring. Keeping in mind that longer tubes don't result in longer suspension travel, the same springs will be fine.

Another option to extend your fork 2" is to get some Trackerdie 2" extended damper rods. I have no affiliation or experience with the product, but it looks well-built and is a lot cheaper than new sliders (my one concern would be that simply extending the damper rod will reduce the 'overlap' between the fork tube and the slider, and therefore increase the potential 'leverage' and stiction between the slider and tube...) https://www.lowbrowcustoms.com/produ...amper-tube-kit. If you use the longer damper, the original springs and spacer can just be reused...

Tools: To dismantle the forks needs a few basic tools, but keep in mind that the forks are Japanese, so most fasteners are metric. Unusual tools you might need to buy are a 35mm socket for the fork cap, and a long 12mm allen driver for the damper rod bolts. An impact driver is useful for removing the damper dod bolt. You will need (or need to make) a fork seal installer/driver. Motion Pro makes a nice one, but you can use a piece of PVC pipe if you're careful. Torque wrench(es) are really important for proper reassembly.

Parts: As you'll need to dismantle/reassemble the forks, you should replace all the seals etc. James Gaskets makes a good fork rebuild kitwhich includes all the seals, spacers, gaskets etc. You'll need fresh fork oil. If you don't have a model-specific manual, I HIGHLY recommend getting one.

But that's about it. It's a fairly easy job, but take your time and be methodical and careful. If you get it wrong it can (in fact or probably will) be dangerous. There isnt a lot of stuff in the fork/brake/wheel area that isn't important to get right.

I hope that helps
I'm not worried about travel length its more for raising my front end. So all i would need is longer tubes and longer springs correct? i would replace fork seals and fluid obviously. thanks for the help!
 
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Old Dec 20, 2022 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Scumventures
I'm not worried about travel length its more for raising my front end. So all i would need is longer tubes and longer springs correct? i would replace fork seals and fluid obviously. thanks for the help!
Hey man, not trying to be a dick but did you read the replies you got as far as what you need?
 
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Easy Peasy

https://www.legendsuspensions.com/pr...nsion-2006-17/

 
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Originally Posted by brownie4412
Man, why'd you have to post that! That would be way better than my +2 dampers! Damnit!
 
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Originally Posted by snake_eyes
Man, why'd you have to post that! That would be way better than my +2 dampers! Damnit!
It seems like every time I try to piece something together it just doesn't go as smoothly as I'd like lol. These kits from Legends truly are a great option if you can swing the price tag. Word on the street is that Bitubo is getting ready to offer a fully adjustable +2" cartridge kit. That will be pretty nice I'm sure.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2022 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by brownie4412
It seems like every time I try to piece something together it just doesn't go as smoothly as I'd like lol. These kits from Legends truly are a great option if you can swing the price tag. Word on the street is that Bitubo is getting ready to offer a fully adjustable +2" cartridge kit. That will be pretty nice I'm sure.
That might have to be next winter's project, they'd be a nice match for my Revo-ARC's in the rear! I like the RaceTech spring/emulator setup I have now, but I have to imagine this would be head and shoulders above!
 
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