2016 FXDB or New?
#11
I like the old Dyna bikes, and the 2016 would be my choice.... just not at 12K.... At $12K, it would have to be $3000 above "average" condition...
Year: 2016
Make: Harley-Davidson
Model: FXDB103 Dyna Street Bob
Model Type: Cruiser
Displacement: 1690
Cylinders: 2
VIN: G
Finance Advance: $7,980
MSRP: $13,699
Avg Retail: $8,750
Auction Wholesale $7,335
Clean Trade: $7,145
Fair Trade: $6,575
If they were willing to sell it at a reasonable price, I'd be all over it.....
But I am partial to a nice 2016 Dyna...
Year: 2016
Make: Harley-Davidson
Model: FXDB103 Dyna Street Bob
Model Type: Cruiser
Displacement: 1690
Cylinders: 2
VIN: G
Finance Advance: $7,980
MSRP: $13,699
Avg Retail: $8,750
Auction Wholesale $7,335
Clean Trade: $7,145
Fair Trade: $6,575
If they were willing to sell it at a reasonable price, I'd be all over it.....
But I am partial to a nice 2016 Dyna...
You could say I'm also a fan of a good twin cam 103 FXDB
#12
$12k out the door might be reasonable if the dealer put new tires on it, maybe a battery and serviced it. It's a Dyna, so look at the motor mounts and see if they'll replace them.
If you like the aftermarket parts that's a bonus, but they don't increase the bikes value. They'll try to sell you ESP (extended warranty) and those aftermarket parts may not be covered. I backed out on ESP when the guy said "any street legal Screamin Eagle part will be covered." If you need a solid warranty the new bike might be better for you.
I can't say what's right for you but ride them both. If you're interested in performance, what would it take to get the Twin cam 103 to where the 117 M8 already is? Do you like the vibrations from a rubber mounted Twin Cam Dyna or the smoother M8 Softail?
If you like the aftermarket parts that's a bonus, but they don't increase the bikes value. They'll try to sell you ESP (extended warranty) and those aftermarket parts may not be covered. I backed out on ESP when the guy said "any street legal Screamin Eagle part will be covered." If you need a solid warranty the new bike might be better for you.
I can't say what's right for you but ride them both. If you're interested in performance, what would it take to get the Twin cam 103 to where the 117 M8 already is? Do you like the vibrations from a rubber mounted Twin Cam Dyna or the smoother M8 Softail?
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GreyHat (01-20-2024)
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GreyHat (01-20-2024)
#14
Thanks everyone for the comments on this it really helps me get a better understanding of what I might want.
I'm between just getting the new M8 knowing its a new platform that is going to have growing aftermarket support, or the Dyna where I'm more than likely going to replace everything on it to what I'd like it to have including the motor to something like a 124.
Ultimately I have to ride both to decide. Is it worth it to buy a Dyna and drop another $10k into it and be at the price of a new M8, or buy the M8 and still put in a few $$$.
I'm between just getting the new M8 knowing its a new platform that is going to have growing aftermarket support, or the Dyna where I'm more than likely going to replace everything on it to what I'd like it to have including the motor to something like a 124.
Ultimately I have to ride both to decide. Is it worth it to buy a Dyna and drop another $10k into it and be at the price of a new M8, or buy the M8 and still put in a few $$$.
#15
Thanks everyone for the comments on this it really helps me get a better understanding of what I might want.
I'm between just getting the new M8 knowing its a new platform that is going to have growing aftermarket support, or the Dyna where I'm more than likely going to replace everything on it to what I'd like it to have including the motor to something like a 124.
Ultimately I have to ride both to decide. Is it worth it to buy a Dyna and drop another $10k into it and be at the price of a new M8, or buy the M8 and still put in a few $$$.
Only you can answer a "is it worth it" question based on your financial situation and performance goals...
Just FWIW...
I have the mod sickness......
I went with a 124" crate engine in my 2016 bagger, got 135HP & 151TQ... love it, no need for an M8 touring bike
I went 95" big bore kit w/headwork on my 2003 Heritage, love it and no need for an M8 monoshock softail for a fun bike.
On my 2001 FXSTS Springer w/carb, I just went Stage I, it's a cruiser, and quite peppy fop an 88" @ Stage I, I'm more than content with it. No need for an M8 cruising bike.
I have owned my 2016 Dyna Low Rider (103"HO OEM engine) for a year. So far, I just went Stage I. I don't know if it's gearing, the lower weight, or...??? This thing cruises at 80 MPH effortlessly... It is quicker than I could have imagined it would be @ Stage I... I am, so far, quite satisfied with it's performance..., maybe a bolt-in cam in it's future just for something to do, but I would be happy leaving it as is... and no need to look at an M8 bike to fit its riding niche..
My point is to test ride both bikes, and don't get hung up on engine displacement numbers, and/or the bragging rights game....
If you need the refinement, newer M8 bike for whatever reason... go for it. But don't assume you will need to highly customize a Twin Cam or "replace everything" before it will satisfy your needs rather than an M8...
IMHO.... Even with my mod sickness, if a bike feels good, performs well in the application I use it for, I will let that alone decide what mods I do... And contrary to the "newer is always better" crowd, and/or the Harley-Davidson marketing machine, it is perfectly OK to be satisfied with a Twin Cam, or even an EVO, if it fits your budget/performance goals...
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Thanks everyone for the comments on this it really helps me get a better understanding of what I might want.
I'm between just getting the new M8 knowing its a new platform that is going to have growing aftermarket support, or the Dyna where I'm more than likely going to replace everything on it to what I'd like it to have including the motor to something like a 124.
Ultimately I have to ride both to decide. Is it worth it to buy a Dyna and drop another $10k into it and be at the price of a new M8, or buy the M8 and still put in a few $$$.
I'm between just getting the new M8 knowing its a new platform that is going to have growing aftermarket support, or the Dyna where I'm more than likely going to replace everything on it to what I'd like it to have including the motor to something like a 124.
Ultimately I have to ride both to decide. Is it worth it to buy a Dyna and drop another $10k into it and be at the price of a new M8, or buy the M8 and still put in a few $$$.
I'm not saying I wouldn't love to have a huge engine, in fact, I'd love to have 140+ inches NA in my touring bike. But if you're thinking a Dyna is going to be "fast" compared to a sport bike or something, an air cooled Harley-Davidson is not for you.
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GreyHat (01-20-2024)
#17
@hattitude Solid points, thanks for the input!
@downzero Gotcha, I still have a lot more to understand in this world. I just looked up what the kit would be price wise from S&S and factored in some labor costs but not much else beyond that. My current bike weighs in at close to 500lbs ready to ride, and has roughly 110hp and 78 ft-lb of torque. In contrast, my first bike has been my favorite so far being 400lbs ready to ride, and only 50 ft-lb torque and 75hp which was a parallel twin. Ultimately, I would like a nice cruiser bike that is comfortable to ride compared to being hunched over the tank for my shoulders/neck and be fun to ride. No aspirations of racing the bike just want it to be able to fun and have some character.
@downzero Gotcha, I still have a lot more to understand in this world. I just looked up what the kit would be price wise from S&S and factored in some labor costs but not much else beyond that. My current bike weighs in at close to 500lbs ready to ride, and has roughly 110hp and 78 ft-lb of torque. In contrast, my first bike has been my favorite so far being 400lbs ready to ride, and only 50 ft-lb torque and 75hp which was a parallel twin. Ultimately, I would like a nice cruiser bike that is comfortable to ride compared to being hunched over the tank for my shoulders/neck and be fun to ride. No aspirations of racing the bike just want it to be able to fun and have some character.
#18
Ride both and see what works for you.
#20
I have not taken a test ride on the new soft tail so I cannot advise on that. I have however owned quite a few Dyna's and I am a huge fan. I currently own a 09 FXD that is bone stock and it's a blast. I have outgrown the custom bug and really enjoy a quiet, reliable bike. I have a touring bike with the 114 M8 motor and love it also. So, because this is going to be the next bike I look for, take a look at the 2007 FXDSE. easy to pull up on you tube. This bike (in my opinion only) is the ultimate Dyna. Most of them are sitting in some guys garage with almost no miles on them and I have seen them go for 10K. They have the 110 motor and chrome everywhere. They also sport the factory custom paint. Just sharing my day dream with you. Good luck
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Redbeard (01-30-2024)