Whatever, The truth is the parts and service divisions have a different agenda than engineering. Their main aim is to separate you from your dollars not necessarily while making your bike run it's best. And of course they will try to tell you that using a non H-D part will void your bike warranty which is actually illegal.
So believe what you want.
I've been riding Harleys for more than 20 years and street bikes for more'n 40.
I've seen and heard all kind of BS from those that think they know as well as those that are supposed to know.

 

Perhaps, but it's just as likely that he has one year experience repeated 19 times. He/you are going to have to explain how just putting pipes on is going to affect the calibration since you aren't adding any additional air into the system? You can't remove more than you put in and if you don't change the A/C you're not going to get more in no matter what pipes you put on.

 

Every motorcycle mag tech editor that I've read has gone on record that a stage I upgrade on any HD from '07 on up (O2 sensors, closed loop EFI) DOES NOT need a recal. I'll follow that recommendation before a HD press release. Worse case, go stage I and then ride it, if you think it needs a recal OR you want one to bump the RPM limit up, then go for it.

 

How can you tell if the ECM has been recalibrated? My 06 was supposed to have been done when i got the bike new back in November of 05. It has the o2 sensers. I am not completly sure the it was ever done even though i got charged for it.

 

 

What gives you the idea that what the MoCo prints in it's sales catalog is FACT? It's simple marketing. Ever watched late night television? Infomercials are fun to watch but nothing FACTUAL about them. All they're trying to do is get your money.

Do you realize how many thousands of riders bought the "stage 1 dealer download" which is the simple recalibration after pipes and stage 1 a/c are installed? Usually at a cost of about $150 for 10min worth of work. Also, most of those riders generally wasted $150 because they eventually went to a different product such as SERT, SEST, TTS, Thundermax, TTS, PC III/V, Fuelpak,etc.

It's well known that the stage 1 download is not an exact recalibration. Very generalized. Sometimes it works good. Sometimes it doesn't. Either way, the dealers and the MoCo are getting $150 a pop for it.

Can you refute those FACTS?

[EDIT] I should have just posted...

 

To me "facts" would be datalogs showing fuel trims and wideband o2 results. Not an excert out of a catalog where the goal is to help MOCO's bottom line.

 

If you have a tach run it up til the rev limiter kicks in. if it's above 6K it's been recalibrated.
With out a tach I don't have any Ideas.

 

Could DynaRule contact the dealer he bought the bike from, or any dealer for that matter. They can hook it up and know quickly whether it was done or not.

 

So here is my first ever vid...of Stage 1 Mods...It works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4utg7LEb6ZA