Turn Signals NOT self canceling anymore
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A diagnostic device should give you a fault code if the accelerometer (Tip Switch) has failed. On my bike, it's called a Bank Angle Sensor (BAS) and is located in the Turn Signal Module (TSM).
I think. At least it's a starting point.
Found another guy that cleaned his speed sensor and that cleared it up. Whatever.
Last edited by Grendel4; 08-03-2010 at 01:01 PM.
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I assume that if it's the bank angle sensor in the TSM, then that would require the replacement of the TSM. I can't see why cleaning the speed sensor would cause the turn signals to start self canceling again. Got any insight on that possibility?
The bike's running fine except for having to manually cancel the turn signals. Are there any issues with just running it without self canceling turn signals?
The bike's running fine except for having to manually cancel the turn signals. Are there any issues with just running it without self canceling turn signals?
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I assume that if it's the bank angle sensor in the TSM, then that would require the replacement of the TSM. I can't see why cleaning the speed sensor would cause the turn signals to start self canceling again. Got any insight on that possibility?
The bike's running fine except for having to manually cancel the turn signals. Are there any issues with just running it without self canceling turn signals?
The bike's running fine except for having to manually cancel the turn signals. Are there any issues with just running it without self canceling turn signals?
Sorry, just kidding. It's fine, just a pain in the *** hitting the button again or looking down and seeing that you've been riding for 20 minutes anticipating a right turn.
I would agree that you'll need to replace the TSM to correct the problem.
I don't see how cleaning something irrelevant would fix it.
You could call your dealer and ask to talk to a tech. Ask him if it needs replaced or if there's a reset or something. If you have a cool dealer they'll at least answer you fairly.
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I ran across this info that might explain how cleaning a speed sensor could effect turn signal cancelling.
The TSSM, serves many functions. Timing for turn signals as picked up by the speed sensor to control the time out distance/time. Speed sensor feeds speedo thru the TSSM and also the ECM for controlling fuel flow to the injectors. Last but not least, bike security module.
I suppose a dirty speed sensor could adversely effect the turn signal time out function. Maybe I'll try cleaning the speed sensor first. It can't hurt.
The TSSM, serves many functions. Timing for turn signals as picked up by the speed sensor to control the time out distance/time. Speed sensor feeds speedo thru the TSSM and also the ECM for controlling fuel flow to the injectors. Last but not least, bike security module.
I suppose a dirty speed sensor could adversely effect the turn signal time out function. Maybe I'll try cleaning the speed sensor first. It can't hurt.
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I just cleaned the speed sensor. There was very little in the way of metal filings clinging to the sensor (good news), and there was no evidence of contact to the sensor tip. I cleaned it anyway. After reinstalling, I took the bike for a test ride. I'm sorry to say, there was no improvement in the self canceling turn signals.
I'm guessing that it's a TSM problem, but I'll make sure all connections are making good contact before installing a replacement part.
I'm ok with manually canceling the turn signals, but it's a pain in bright sunlight to see the "dummy" arrows blinking a reminder. Besides, the bike just needs to be "right" or I have a problem with it. I'm too picky I guess!!?
I'm guessing that it's a TSM problem, but I'll make sure all connections are making good contact before installing a replacement part.
I'm ok with manually canceling the turn signals, but it's a pain in bright sunlight to see the "dummy" arrows blinking a reminder. Besides, the bike just needs to be "right" or I have a problem with it. I'm too picky I guess!!?
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I tracked down my problem with the self canceling turn signals. Since on the '02 models, the self canceling circuit runs through the speedometer, and since I had just changed out the instrument housing a few days prior the problem developing, I decided to verify the connection to the speedometer before jumping to a more costly conclusion. As it turns out, I didn't get the connector clicked into the speedometer all the way. It was connected enough that everything worked for awhile, but vibration caused it to loosten just enough to lose contact on the circuit for the self canceling turn signals (even though the speedometer/odometer worked fine). I made the connection and test rode the bike. Everything works like new. I love simple solutions!