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I had an 06 1200 custom that had the kuryakyn big bore kit with std cams i was told. I really liked that bikes power & pull throughout the power range. What i would like to do is put a cam in my ride but not jug it at all. 103 is fine & large enough. I have kicked around these 2 cams by SE, the 255 & 259e. Im unfamiliar with this area so ive listened to them on youtube & really like the sound of the 259e becuse it reminded me of my 1200 that was jugged. I dont want an over cammed engine to where it works against itself because i havent done anything else to it. I wouldnt mind kuryakyn but dont know what cams they havw that would be similar to the se259e. But i want to repeat that i dont want to rejug it to a larger ci. Thanks for all help.
 
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A cam choice is very subjective. You should pick one based on the type of riding that you do.
 
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TTS-100 cams. The 259's will be way too big for a stock motor, your lower end throttle response will suffer.
 
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If wanting low-mid power an Andrews 48 or Wood 222.
If wanting it to carry further into the rpm curve, an Andrews 57 would work well.
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Well being very ignorant on this subject, im not sure on how to answer. Other than my 1200 had a powerful power range that i was impressed by from take off all the way to 110 + mph. It had what i want now. I would like to have a powerful take off & hard pulling away power to about 90-100mph. Is that even doable?
 
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There is no "silver bullet" cam. Cams are designed to perform, at their peak, in about a 2500 rpm range; however, that does not mean that the cams are not working outside that range. For instance, the SE255 cam torque curve starts dropping off just past 4000rpms and by 4500, torque is in free fall and the 255 will never make much more than high 80s HP. On the other hand, the Andrews 48, very similar to the SE255, will have the same torque characteristics but will carry the torque further than the SE255 before nosing over.

What Uncle Larry is telling you is that you need to do some homework. When riding, pay attention to how you ride. Do you ride two up a lot? Do you bump the rev limiter regularly? Pay attention and observe where you want the peak power and select a cam that will deliver.

The TTS-100 is fairly new, not a lot of information in the way of dyno sheets available but the data I have seen looks promising. The Andrews 48 would very likely be a good choice as well but, once again, cam choice should be based on how you ride the bike and where you need/want the power.

I assume you have already done the Stage I upgrade? If not, get that done before you move on to cams. You will also need a fuel management system when you do install cams; a proper dyno tune will be necessary as well.
 
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I have the se heavy breather & v&h big radius pipes. My riding does consist of 2up & i like the idea of smoking those little wanna be fast & furious bumble bee cars. Its quite satisfying! So the andrews 48 will give me hard pulling takeoff & not level off as quick as te se255's will?
 
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I have the se heavy breather & v&h big radius pipes. My riding does consist of 2up & i like the idea of smoking those little wanna be fast & furious bumble bee cars. Its quite satisfying! So the andrews 48 will give me hard pulling takeoff & not level off as quick as te se255's will?
Correct. Not saying the 48 is "your" cam as there are others that will perform well also, like the Andrews 57, TMan 555 Torkster or his 600SM, S&S 570 which will all keep CCP under 200psi. The 48 will push CCP a hair over 200psi, on the cusp of too much for me but it has been done. I don't have any hands on experience but the Andrews 57 seems to be the current "go to" bolt in cam for a cam only upgrade to a Stage I 103 motor.
 

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Any thoughts on kuryakyn? Ive only had one experiance once with them on that 1200 & was pleased but, thats only one which may not count.
 


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