Bike blew up, HELP! (might be a good thing)
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Sounds more like a stuck needle/seat or heavy float and oil out the breather. Also could have wet sumped. All the oil running out would be from the oil tank or the breather. The only way it would come out of the engine would be if it were completely wet sumped and there was a hole in the bottom of the case.
I'd recommend diagnosing before you buy an engine and assume it "blew up"
I'd recommend diagnosing before you buy an engine and assume it "blew up"
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Max had a good suggestion in his post about the timing plug. Repeating my thoughts, you could have couple things going on and Max is suggesting similar things.
1) In a Softail all the oil is in the tank above the engine and gravity makes it bleed down into the engine through the check valve in the oil pump. Then when you turn the engine over, it overwhelms the return & breather system and comes pouring out the vent line under the bike. In an EVO, it will typically be a breather hose under the bike somewhere with a little filter on it - most likely near the rear under the frame.
2) If the carburetor is leaking past the needle and seat and the engine has filled with oil it also means the vacuum petcock has failed. That could be the fuel out the exhaust. If enough leaked fast enough, it can run into the intake, into the cylinders and leak past the rings into the bottom end.
Does the oil in the tank smell like fuel?
ALSO - Softails must be run prior to adding oil. When they sump through the pump, and people look in the tank and it's low, they actually overfill them. The oil must be returned to the tank prior to checking level.
1) In a Softail all the oil is in the tank above the engine and gravity makes it bleed down into the engine through the check valve in the oil pump. Then when you turn the engine over, it overwhelms the return & breather system and comes pouring out the vent line under the bike. In an EVO, it will typically be a breather hose under the bike somewhere with a little filter on it - most likely near the rear under the frame.
2) If the carburetor is leaking past the needle and seat and the engine has filled with oil it also means the vacuum petcock has failed. That could be the fuel out the exhaust. If enough leaked fast enough, it can run into the intake, into the cylinders and leak past the rings into the bottom end.
Does the oil in the tank smell like fuel?
ALSO - Softails must be run prior to adding oil. When they sump through the pump, and people look in the tank and it's low, they actually overfill them. The oil must be returned to the tank prior to checking level.
Last edited by Ed Ramberger; 04-28-2018 at 01:12 PM.
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Excellent feedback. So, I cranked it again today. Didn't start, and then oil rushed out a filter behind the jugs. I'll post pictures when I can get some. Pretty sure the oil smelled of gas.
Interestingly enough, the insurance names the bike as an "94 HD clone." The frame is a softail, not sure if factory harley. Most parts have HD emblems, however the motor says 80 inches, dyna wide glide.
What are the appropriate steps for fixing if that is the case? I'm going to pull the carburetor and clean it. New petcock? What else?
Interestingly enough, the insurance names the bike as an "94 HD clone." The frame is a softail, not sure if factory harley. Most parts have HD emblems, however the motor says 80 inches, dyna wide glide.
What are the appropriate steps for fixing if that is the case? I'm going to pull the carburetor and clean it. New petcock? What else?
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1) Clean and rebuild the carburetor. Replace intake seals if not done already.
2) If it has a vacuum petcock it is most likely leaving the gas flowing -it is supposed to shut off fuel flow to carb when engine is off. Best just to replace if so.
3) If its a manual petcock just make sure it shuts off and turn iff after every ride.
4) Run engine to return oil to tank.
5) Leave filter on, drain oil, fill with cheap oil that will only be used to run and flush out engine.
6) Change oil and filter.
7) Change plugs.
2) If it has a vacuum petcock it is most likely leaving the gas flowing -it is supposed to shut off fuel flow to carb when engine is off. Best just to replace if so.
3) If its a manual petcock just make sure it shuts off and turn iff after every ride.
4) Run engine to return oil to tank.
5) Leave filter on, drain oil, fill with cheap oil that will only be used to run and flush out engine.
6) Change oil and filter.
7) Change plugs.
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