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Old Apr 2, 2017 | 11:17 AM
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This probably should have been posted in the Drivetrain section but I wanted to know if any of my Evo brethren have heard of this..... Any of you Evo hot roders heard of this. I have not until today and I must say I'm very impressed and will be looking into it. I actually floated a valve and collapsed a lifter once and it scared the **** out of me. Not saying this will eliminate that type of problem but if you can get rid of any part of the shift sequence to enable a better shift you'll have less of a chance to pop a motor... I know there will be some out there that will say these are heavy machines and not hot rods but I will argue that if you can get your heavy ride into the 11's or maybe even the 10's in a 1/4 mile I would think you have a Hot Rod..... Look at all the stock 60's and early 70"s muscle cars. Factory build was 13's and 12's and they were considered Hot Rods....check this out.....

 
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The gain of 4/10th at the track is impressive.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2017 | 06:15 AM
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that has been around since the late 60s we did it different then but nothing new

all the weak links in everything show up next -- just so you know
 
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
that has been around since the late 60s we did it different then but nothing new

all the weak links in everything show up next -- just so you know
I'm sure.. the Drivetrain will need to be beefed up. Currently running a chain. Broke two belts on previous build. Not sure how the Ultima 6 speed will hold up. But wouldn't that still be a good thing to have for even normal driving? Not having to use a clutch to shift, once moving that is...
 
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Old Apr 3, 2017 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 98hotrodfatboy
I'm sure.. the Drivetrain will need to be beefed up. Currently running a chain. Broke two belts on previous build. Not sure how the Ultima 6 speed will hold up. But wouldn't that still be a good thing to have for even normal driving? Not having to use a clutch to shift, once moving that is...
Millions of bikers have been using the clutch to shift for a crap load of years.
Personally I don't see the need for clutchless shifting for normal riding.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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If you're looking for the best ET, why not? It's the nature of racing to expect to break stuff, so what's a little more wear and tear on the drivetrain?

Not of much interest to a slow geezer like me.
 
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using it slow driving my guess it would do more damage then wide open - nature of the thing
 
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Originally Posted by johnjzjz
using it slow driving my guess it would do more damage then wide open - nature of the thing
So I guess your saying that it wouldn't be good for everyday riding. Ok i can live with that. This is why we post what we don't know, so we can learn.... Thanx John.....
 
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It works the same in everyday riding as well. By killing the ignition you are relieving the load just long enough to shift, same thing the clutch does, just accomplishing it in a different way. I have a couple customers using this system because of a bad hand so that don't have to use the clutch as often.
 
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Our Navistar trucks have shifting systems that are way more advanced but same principle. Takes a manual 10 speed trans, clutch is a rpm lockup design with no pedal, ECM drops the rpms on the engine while the trans control module tells electric motors to shift the trans, driver just puts it to the floor and electronics take over. Neater than socks on a turtle.

Some of them have a electronic servo the engages and releases the clutch controled by a computer
 

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