98 build before and after dynos
#1
98 build before and after dynos
Had my bike up to Hillside last year and Scott did a 98" build for me as shown in 1st dyno. Told me then I should have went for larger tb and fatcat I passed on it but was very happy with build.I know a different cam would have brought the torq to the left but I wanted that power further out because of the way I ride
Well after a summer riding felt the torque wasn't quite there off the get and was kind deaf in my right ear so I decided to take his advice and finish the job.So Scott matched the ports in the heads with the new intake and up to Joes it went to be tuned. Anyway here are a couple dynos showing the difference a fatcat / hpi55 and larger intake made and some of Scott's touchups on his stg 3 heads
At 3k rpm there is almost 25 more tq.This is a real joy to ride very mannerly but when you twist it be prepared its a beast.
Very happy once again I think I have reached my limit in search of power at least for my riding ability.
Well after a summer riding felt the torque wasn't quite there off the get and was kind deaf in my right ear so I decided to take his advice and finish the job.So Scott matched the ports in the heads with the new intake and up to Joes it went to be tuned. Anyway here are a couple dynos showing the difference a fatcat / hpi55 and larger intake made and some of Scott's touchups on his stg 3 heads
At 3k rpm there is almost 25 more tq.This is a real joy to ride very mannerly but when you twist it be prepared its a beast.
Very happy once again I think I have reached my limit in search of power at least for my riding ability.
#2
Really nice torque curve after the re-work, TB and fatcats. I’m in the middle of a 95”, 26N and Baisley Super stock heads build and am concerned I’m going to have the reversion dip you show in your first dyno graph due to my pipes. I’m currently running Rinehart 2-2 flush cuts right now. Even though I love the look and the sound of these pipes, I’m concerned I’m gonna have a reversion dip. I just haven’t convinced myself yet to drop another $600 on a set of 2-1 pipes. But then I keep telling myself I’ve saved some serious coin doing the work myself, buying the parts at 20% discount and having Baisley bore my existing jugs and doing the head work.
I’ve never seen a dyno graph of someone running Rinehart 2-2 flush cuts, but I’d say your dyno graph with the VH Short Shots is probably indicative of what I’m going to see with my Rineharts.
This performance motor work is a serious money sink addition.
I’ve never seen a dyno graph of someone running Rinehart 2-2 flush cuts, but I’d say your dyno graph with the VH Short Shots is probably indicative of what I’m going to see with my Rineharts.
This performance motor work is a serious money sink addition.
#3
Had my bike up to Hillside last year and Scott did a 98" build for me as shown in 1st dyno. Told me then I should have went for larger tb and fatcat I passed on it but was very happy with build.I know a different cam would have brought the torq to the left but I wanted that power further out because of the way I ride
Well after a summer riding felt the torque wasn't quite there off the get and was kind deaf in my right ear so I decided to take his advice and finish the job.So Scott matched the ports in the heads with the new intake and up to Joes it went to be tuned. Anyway here are a couple dynos showing the difference a fatcat / hpi55 and larger intake made and some of Scott's touchups on his stg 3 heads
At 3k rpm there is almost 25 more tq.This is a real joy to ride very mannerly but when you twist it be prepared its a beast.
Very happy once again I think I have reached my limit in search of power at least for my riding ability.
Well after a summer riding felt the torque wasn't quite there off the get and was kind deaf in my right ear so I decided to take his advice and finish the job.So Scott matched the ports in the heads with the new intake and up to Joes it went to be tuned. Anyway here are a couple dynos showing the difference a fatcat / hpi55 and larger intake made and some of Scott's touchups on his stg 3 heads
At 3k rpm there is almost 25 more tq.This is a real joy to ride very mannerly but when you twist it be prepared its a beast.
Very happy once again I think I have reached my limit in search of power at least for my riding ability.
Looks like Joe, @ www.joescyclerepair.com, certainly laid a great tune on that!!
We knew it was going to be a home run when we looked at it on our Dynojet 150.
Scott
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HARLEY-DAVIDSON SPEED & SERVICE CENTER
5225 SOUTH MAIN ST., MUNNSVILLE, N.Y. 13409
Sales/Support 315-495-6650
www.hillsidecycle.com
Walk-in Retail Showroom
Complete H-D Machine Shop
Case & cylinder boring
Complete Cylinder Head Shop
High-Performance Engine Kits
Crank Rebuilding
Direct Link & PowerVision Tuning
Goodson HD Tooling Manufacturer
Maxton Mile World Record
4500 sq ft. facility
OVER 35 YEARS OF H-D ENGINE BUILDING.
See us on Facebook.
#4
Really nice torque curve after the re-work, TB and fatcats. I’m in the middle of a 95”, 26N and Baisley Super stock heads build and am concerned I’m going to have the reversion dip you show in your first dyno graph due to my pipes. I’m currently running Rinehart 2-2 flush cuts right now. Even though I love the look and the sound of these pipes, I’m concerned I’m gonna have a reversion dip. I just haven’t convinced myself yet to drop another $600 on a set of 2-1 pipes. But then I keep telling myself I’ve saved some serious coin doing the work myself, buying the parts at 20% discount and having Baisley bore my existing jugs and doing the head work.
I’ve never seen a dyno graph of someone running Rinehart 2-2 flush cuts, but I’d say your dyno graph with the VH Short Shots is probably indicative of what I’m going to see with my Rineharts.
This performance motor work is a serious money sink addition.
I’ve never seen a dyno graph of someone running Rinehart 2-2 flush cuts, but I’d say your dyno graph with the VH Short Shots is probably indicative of what I’m going to see with my Rineharts.
This performance motor work is a serious money sink addition.
Joe did all he could on the first dyno he actually put long shots on and they did no better.He told me as well as Scott there was a lot left on the table with the build but it wouldn't be exposed with those pipes.But I kept the V&h anyway
The heads could flow much more than the pipes allowed and by switching them I was able to go up in tb size to the 55 hpi. Just wanted to show on basically the same engine what a difference can be had when the all the parts are working together.
#5
Joe,
Looks like Joe, @ www.joescyclerepair.com, certainly laid a great tune on that!!
We knew it was going to be a home run when we looked at it on our Dynojet 150.
Scott
Looks like Joe, @ www.joescyclerepair.com, certainly laid a great tune on that!!
We knew it was going to be a home run when we looked at it on our Dynojet 150.
Scott
Yeah when Joe faxed me the dyno sheet I almost fell off my chair.I didn't expect almost a 20hp increase along with 7 more tq all in the right areas.
Once again thanks to both you and Joe for a great job looking forward to much riding this summer should be a blast
Joe
#6
Interesting thread - thanks for sharing. If I could throw in something about 2-2 vs 2-1s here I hope it adds to the understanding.
I and a mate both have 08 RKC's. Mine was stock but he had a Thunderheader and canned map and it just walked away in roll on tests. Last summer I fitted (from Fuel Moto) V&H Dresser Duals with Jackpots and a Woods TW6-6 with PC V and the Fuel Moto canned map (neither bike has yet been dyno tuned - aiming for May to do mine). I knew my pipes were "inferior" performers compared to the Thunderheaders but the results of new top gear roll-ons surprised me. The result is that below 3500 I can just hold my mates bike but it's not until we get over 3500 that I can reel him in. So on this view a good 2-1 is worth a 2-2 and a mild cam until you start downshifting.
Clearly some dyno work will benefit my ride and it's still massively better than stock but still an interesting comparison I hope
I and a mate both have 08 RKC's. Mine was stock but he had a Thunderheader and canned map and it just walked away in roll on tests. Last summer I fitted (from Fuel Moto) V&H Dresser Duals with Jackpots and a Woods TW6-6 with PC V and the Fuel Moto canned map (neither bike has yet been dyno tuned - aiming for May to do mine). I knew my pipes were "inferior" performers compared to the Thunderheaders but the results of new top gear roll-ons surprised me. The result is that below 3500 I can just hold my mates bike but it's not until we get over 3500 that I can reel him in. So on this view a good 2-1 is worth a 2-2 and a mild cam until you start downshifting.
Clearly some dyno work will benefit my ride and it's still massively better than stock but still an interesting comparison I hope
#7
Scott,
Yeah when Joe faxed me the dyno sheet I almost fell off my chair.I didn't expect almost a 20hp increase along with 7 more tq all in the right areas.
Once again thanks to both you and Joe for a great job looking forward to much riding this summer should be a blast
Joe
Yeah when Joe faxed me the dyno sheet I almost fell off my chair.I didn't expect almost a 20hp increase along with 7 more tq all in the right areas.
Once again thanks to both you and Joe for a great job looking forward to much riding this summer should be a blast
Joe
The wonderful thing, is also that your brothers bike, with the same build is a near carbon-copy of yours. hehe
Scott
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#9
Nice, real nice. Joe tried real hard to convince me to give up my short shots, but I love the look and sound. So he worked his magic, he put some threaded rod with nuts in the pipes for a little more back pressure. My build is mild.
103"
204's
Zippers open element
V&H sss
pcIII
I have 98.8 hp. he was able to tune to over 100, but it gave up to much tq.
Tq. is 114.7 at 2 grand I have 100 ft.lbs. and I peak around 4400.
The numbers your turning out our fantastic. Enjoy
103"
204's
Zippers open element
V&H sss
pcIII
I have 98.8 hp. he was able to tune to over 100, but it gave up to much tq.
Tq. is 114.7 at 2 grand I have 100 ft.lbs. and I peak around 4400.
The numbers your turning out our fantastic. Enjoy
#10
He did my brothers bike and the numbers are similiar. I wasn't a 2-1 fan but if you really want the most out of a build I think it shows its the way to go.
And hats off to Joe he knows how to find every bit of power there is