Harley-Davidson's CEO Just Made A Recovery That Much Harder..
#11
I didn't even realize Harley was supposed to be made in America until I started reading HDForums. I mean, I guess in the back of my head I kinda knew it was an American company, but did not think of it as a make it or break it strategy. I've always wanted a Harley because of the image of the community and I recall some non-americas riders in that community. "Made in America" was never a part of the value for me.
I wonder, if we took a pole, how the numbers would pan out. Am I really in the minority here?
I wonder, if we took a pole, how the numbers would pan out. Am I really in the minority here?
Reading that bit of trash I'm happy I bought my one and only new harley a couple years ago, I'll do what I've always done the last 40 odd years and just buy an old used one or a pile of parts and build my own again if the urge takes me, it will be made in America as they all should be.
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#12
I have said B4, - We old timers put up with HD through the bad times, and then through their bad times, and more bad times.
Then they had a good run with the evo and Twink.
They never thought of us as special as we thought of them.
We had loyalty towards good old American iron.
Now, where is their loyalty?
yea they have to make a profit..blah blah but this is so wrong moving off shore.
They have screwed with their customers to no end.
Now some of you that are quite clueless are saying they did not know HD was not a world market and why not?
Go bone up on what you own.
I am dam sure HD will lose its loyal customer base here in N.America because of it .
If i am going to have to buy a foreign bike, I will buy a better bike!!
We put up with their BS/ there will be no more reasons too.
Then they had a good run with the evo and Twink.
They never thought of us as special as we thought of them.
We had loyalty towards good old American iron.
Now, where is their loyalty?
yea they have to make a profit..blah blah but this is so wrong moving off shore.
They have screwed with their customers to no end.
Now some of you that are quite clueless are saying they did not know HD was not a world market and why not?
Go bone up on what you own.
I am dam sure HD will lose its loyal customer base here in N.America because of it .
If i am going to have to buy a foreign bike, I will buy a better bike!!
We put up with their BS/ there will be no more reasons too.
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#14
Doesn't really make sense to me for Harley to promote Made in America to the whole world when their markets will not receive American built bikes. Think about it from outside the US.
I'm in Canada and like the US heritage that Harley has. Obviously, my 2017 Iron is not 100% American but times have changed and it is a global market now. As long as N. American bikes are still made (call it assembled if you will) here, I don't care how Harley markets their product. If anything, they don't really need to push the US aspect of it since it's already so engrained in everyone.
It's like Gibson guitars. Everyone already knows they are made in the US and I'll bet most of the people who read this don't even play guitar but you already knew that all Gibsons are made in the US.
I don't know, that's my two cents, maybe I missed the point.
I'm in Canada and like the US heritage that Harley has. Obviously, my 2017 Iron is not 100% American but times have changed and it is a global market now. As long as N. American bikes are still made (call it assembled if you will) here, I don't care how Harley markets their product. If anything, they don't really need to push the US aspect of it since it's already so engrained in everyone.
It's like Gibson guitars. Everyone already knows they are made in the US and I'll bet most of the people who read this don't even play guitar but you already knew that all Gibsons are made in the US.
I don't know, that's my two cents, maybe I missed the point.
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#15
Doesn't really make sense to me for Harley to promote Made in America to the whole world when their markets will not receive American built bikes. Think about it from outside the US.
I'm in Canada and like the US heritage that Harley has. Obviously, my 2017 Iron is not 100% American but times have changed and it is a global market now. As long as N. American bikes are still made (call it assembled if you will) here, I don't care how Harley markets their product. If anything, they don't really need to push the US aspect of it since it's already so engrained in everyone.
It's like Gibson guitars. Everyone already knows they are made in the US and I'll bet most of the people who read this don't even play guitar but you already knew that all Gibsons are made in the US.
I don't know, that's my two cents, maybe I missed the point.
I'm in Canada and like the US heritage that Harley has. Obviously, my 2017 Iron is not 100% American but times have changed and it is a global market now. As long as N. American bikes are still made (call it assembled if you will) here, I don't care how Harley markets their product. If anything, they don't really need to push the US aspect of it since it's already so engrained in everyone.
It's like Gibson guitars. Everyone already knows they are made in the US and I'll bet most of the people who read this don't even play guitar but you already knew that all Gibsons are made in the US.
I don't know, that's my two cents, maybe I missed the point.
#17
#18
I just looked up the CEO's work history on Wikipedia. Apparently, he has been at the MOCO since 1994. I would have thought that, during his over twenty years working for HD, that he would have learned not to make comments that would **** off the company's core customers - American, white middle-aged (& older) men. Sure, say good things about growth areas and plans in those areas but for God's sake - don't say things that will **** off the core! You would think it would be CEO 101!
#19
The only thing one can count on is "CHANGE".
Nothing stays the same.
The world is changing and evolving rapidly. If you are not thinking three steps ahead, doing R & D and re-inventing yourself you will be left behind.
I have more important things to worry about, like my Fall Colors ride tomorrow I am leading in the NC Mountains.
God Bless all and have a great weekend on your HD. Some things we just cannot change whether we like it or not.
Nothing stays the same.
The world is changing and evolving rapidly. If you are not thinking three steps ahead, doing R & D and re-inventing yourself you will be left behind.
I have more important things to worry about, like my Fall Colors ride tomorrow I am leading in the NC Mountains.
God Bless all and have a great weekend on your HD. Some things we just cannot change whether we like it or not.
#20
I have worked for the same company for 40 years, a family owned business. They were bought out by a large corporation about 2 years ago. The changes I have seen in the last 2 years in mind boggling and not for the good (for long term relationships with our customers). A lot of the people at the top have had more jobs than I can count, my thought is they come in and try to make a name for themselves with no real investment in the company or thought of the long term effects of the decisions they make.
Hey they will be gone in a couple of years and on to the next job...It's all about sucking every dollar they can out of all our customers. I'll be surprised if we are still in business 3 years from now. I understand we need to make money to survive but the corporate world is sure a different breed than I'm used too.
Hey they will be gone in a couple of years and on to the next job...It's all about sucking every dollar they can out of all our customers. I'll be surprised if we are still in business 3 years from now. I understand we need to make money to survive but the corporate world is sure a different breed than I'm used too.