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Old 05-31-2019, 03:19 PM
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It will probably be like a typical Harley; overpriced & under powered....
 
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Interesting the rendering does not have a Sari guard which would be required to sell in India.

As for Harley being a premium brand, having only owned two and those for a very short time only two items impressed me about the brand, the accessories available and all the paint color combinations. Outside the manufacturer the service departments of two Harley dealers were really good and most of the riders are good too.
 
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Just another product that will cheapen the H-D brand. So much for it being a premium brand. Management at H-D is so out-of-touch with people and are just throwing darts at the wall hoping that something sticks.
I agree, it sucks right ? I'll no longer be recognized and an upscale rider of a premium brand. I hear the value of my bike crashing as I write this.
 

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I and others have been saying it for years. If Harley really, I mean really, wants to attract a younger market, they have to pay attention the the market, as a whole. People who have an interest in the, "Harley style", buy Honda Shadows, Suzuki Boulevards and other machines that copy the Harley look. That is where Harley needs to go. Lightweight cruiser style bikes, that have a, "grow into" line up. Something like, 250, 450 650 then the 883 Sporty. It would be logical progression for any new rider.
 
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Originally Posted by pbsdaddy
I and others have been saying it for years. If Harley really, I mean really, wants to attract a younger market, they have to pay attention the the market, as a whole. People who have an interest in the, "Harley style", buy Honda Shadows, Suzuki Boulevards and other machines that copy the Harley look. That is where Harley needs to go. Lightweight cruiser style bikes, that have a, "grow into" line up. Something like, 250, 450 650 then the 883 Sporty. It would be logical progression for any new rider.

It's mostly about pricing IMO, not style. Harley is just too expensive for the market they are after. They can't start offering Honda prices as this would destroy their profit margins and take too much business away from their more expensive offerings. It's a catch-22. These new models would just be too expensive compared to Honda/Yamaha offerings in the low CC segment.
 
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Old 05-31-2019, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by pbsdaddy
I and others have been saying it for years. If Harley really, I mean really, wants to attract a younger market, they have to pay attention the the market, as a whole. People who have an interest in the, "Harley style", buy Honda Shadows, Suzuki Boulevards and other machines that copy the Harley look. That is where Harley needs to go. Lightweight cruiser style bikes, that have a, "grow into" line up. Something like, 250, 450 650 then the 883 Sporty. It would be logical progression for any new rider.
But Harley Davidson could not do that because they allowed their business decisions to be dictated by a group of riders that look down on anyone who doesn't have a mega cc displacement bike. Nothing wrong with large displacement bikes but some, myself included have no use or need for a large heavy bike BUT wanted to own a Harley Davidson.

I'd wager alot of riders who would have liked to buy a Harley would not do so knowing full well they would be ridiculed and made the butt of endless jokes. Personally, I couldn't give two ***** if others laugh about my 'girly' bike, many aren't like that though. Harley Davidson painted themselves into their own corner by not branching out, now they are left with no choice. It's either broaden their appeal to different demographics, or continue to only produce bikes a smaller and rapidly shrinking segment of the population would buy, and eventually disappear. The world and technology didn't end with knuckleheads, panheads, shovelheads, etc...

Time and technology marches on...
 
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"Time and technology marches on" which is true but some times, frequently, things are 'good enough'. I grow a garden every summer and eat like a king. I use a hand cultivator tool that probably came off a Norwegian farm in North Dakota from the early 1900's. It isn't the latest rototiller you can get from India, but I grow great vegetables and its good enough. I like to listen to the Blues and have a nice small CD collection. A lot of the music is from the 50's and 60's. It isn't the latest music on the latest technology from 'the Cloud', but I enjoy the hell out of it and its good enough. I have never owned an Apple product, of any kind. I use a flip phone that will text and allow me to actually talk to people. It called 911 in a recent emergency when some guy with the latest European technology in his VW SUV flipped it on its roof on a mountain pass. He didn't ask me if I have an I-phone as I dialed. The flip phone was good enough. I ride a Harley Davidson Electra Glide, its taken me to Alaska, Arkansas, Nevada, Arizona, California, and last week Colorado. It won't out run or out handle a six cylinder BMW or Gold Wing, but when I pull 85 mph in 5th gear at 4000 rpm up a mountain pass, I am still puckered up. Its good enough.

I hope some of you boys figure out someday that chasing the latest crap is like a dog chasing his tail. If you know what that is. The dog will finally sit down, lick his *** and say 'thats good enough'. LOL.
 

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A re-incarnated Buell Blast won't cut it. This, from a company with six-figure execs that are out of touch with the market and don't ride.
I think I see the problem, You're catering to millennials.
Millennials are pussies, and spend their money on rainbows, unicorns, and crop-tops.
 
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Originally Posted by RHPAW
A re-incarnated Buell Blast won't cut it. This, from a company with six-figure execs that are out of touch with the market and don't ride.
I think I see the problem, You're catering to millennials.
Millennials are pussies, and spend their money on rainbows, unicorns, and crop-tops.
And therein lies the problem for Harley Davidson. The 'market' is evolving and the evolving 'market' isn't looking for loud, shaking, pushrod aircooled V-twins. A pushrod, aircooled V-twin is a dinosaur, and the fat lady is just about all warmed up. I knew all that when I bought mine and I like it, BUT... I'm a baby boomer, and we're dying off, and we're not buying bikes in the numbers we used to because dead people don't buy motorcycles.

IF Harley Davidson want's to remain in business, and there are enough ***** millennials with disposable income looking to buy a motorcycle, they will have to produce a motorcycle(s) the ***** millennials want to buy. It's no different than the bikes Harley produced to cater to the baby boomer generation.

Just my .02...
 
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