Fatboy causes accident
#11
Nope, re-read. It was a Fatboy the guy was on. Sorry.
Last edited by Not E'nuff Harley; 10-31-2008 at 10:32 AM.
#12
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I would like to hear your reasoning on this one oh vibrating one!?
#13
Just my take but if she was startled then she wasn't paying attention. Slamming on her brakes sounds like an overreaction to me. The others that rear ended her were obviously tailgaiting. If he had stopped he would not have received an at fault ticket in my opinion.
#14
Sounds like the lady over reacted to the bike.
If she would have tapped the brakes instead of slamming them....
Hopefully everyone was ok.
This should be a decree - all motorcyclists are the cause of ALL accidents.
Cagers know how to operate their vehicles & us BIKERS just make them nervous.
GEESH.
Share the road with a biker. Its not that hard.
If Obama is elected you will be sharing more than the road & that is no accident!
#15
I agree with both sides here. First, there are a bunch of inexperienced people on bikes which is not necessarily a bad thing if they ride responsibly. We were all inexperienced once. But just because you are on a small vehicle with power and agility does not mean the rules of the road no longer apply to you.
Also, the lady sure seems to have over-reacted and the tailgates got exactly what tailgating gets you - even in 5pm traffic. WE all do it, but you better be on your A game when you are lined up and travelling 35 mph bumper to bumper.
Finally, I don't think you have to take a MSF course to be a good rider. It is probably a good start, but an experienced, safe rider can teach you a whole lot and then it comes down to miles, miles, and more miles. Then some more miles, just like driving a cage. The best drivers are those that drive a bunch and actually see driving as a skill they can continually improve on. -regardless of the vehicle.
Also, the lady sure seems to have over-reacted and the tailgates got exactly what tailgating gets you - even in 5pm traffic. WE all do it, but you better be on your A game when you are lined up and travelling 35 mph bumper to bumper.
Finally, I don't think you have to take a MSF course to be a good rider. It is probably a good start, but an experienced, safe rider can teach you a whole lot and then it comes down to miles, miles, and more miles. Then some more miles, just like driving a cage. The best drivers are those that drive a bunch and actually see driving as a skill they can continually improve on. -regardless of the vehicle.
#16
Take me for example. I still use turn signals, just like I was taught. But that law obviously changed since I got my mc license back in '75. Something I wasn't aware of, and need a refresher in.
At age 75 or so, some sort of test needs to be given to check reaction and general motor skills to determine if a person still has the ability to safely operate a motor vehicle or not. And then every time you renew after that(every 4-6 yrs). No one will give up the privilege to drive voluntarily. And driving is a privilege, and is only given to you after you prove the ability to do so safely.
I have no doubt that this comment will allow all sorts of self rightous, it's my God given right of freedom types to hammer my a$$ about it, but who gives a sh*t. Old people run over as many of us as a$$hole$ with cell phones! And it's always the "I didn't see him/her" or " he/she scared me half to death" B.S.!
Just my .05 worth(too long for .02)!
#17
Just my take but if she was startled then she wasn't paying attention. Slamming on her brakes sounds like an overreaction to me. The others that rear ended her were obviously tailgaiting. If he had stopped he would not have received an at fault ticket in my opinion.
#19
Just my take but if she was startled then she wasn't paying attention. Slamming on her brakes sounds like an overreaction to me. The others that rear ended her were obviously tailgaiting. If he had stopped he would not have received an at fault ticket in my opinion.
#20
How about stepped licensing? In Europe you MUST start out on something small and work your way up to big stuff. Personally I would like to see everyone have to ride a bike for at least a year before getting a car license. Make the bastids see what it's like from our perspective! I work at a metric dealer and I see kids with zero experience buy the latest hyper rocket and often crash it in the parking lot! One kid oppped the clutch exiting the lot onto a four lane that runs in front of the shop. He went across both near lanes, the median and the far two lanes before dumping it in some gravel. Thank God nothing was coming in any lane. God really does watch over idiots!