Good news re: That proposed NYC Bill on motorcycle pipes
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Good news re: That proposed NYC Bill on motorcycle pipes
According to the AMA website at http://capwiz.com/amacycle/issues/al...ertid=12315246 the bill was deferred and taken off the agenda. While it can be temporary and could be reintroduced in the future it is not being introduced or voted on now. Here is a copy and paste from the AMA website:
Action Alert
12/15/2008 Information Alert - Update on New York City Introduction 416-A
Attention New York City Area Motorcyclists
Legislation that would mandate the use of OEM (original equipment manufacturer) exhaust systems on all motorcycles in New York City has been "deferred" by the New York City Council. Originally scheduled for consideration at its December 18 meeting, Introduction 416-A has been removed from the agenda.
A representative in the Clerk of Council's office confirmed the removal of the legislation Monday (December 15) afternoon.
The bill would prohibit the parking, stopping or standing of any motorcycle equipped with "straight pipes." Under the definition of "straight pipe" in Intro 416-A, any motorcycle exhaust system not stamped with the U.S. EPA compliance label would be in violation of the law, regardless of the sound level emitted by the exhaust system.
Motorcyclists should continue contacting their City Council members to voice concern regarding this legislation.
For more information, visit the New York City Council Website at http://council.nyc.gov.
Action Alert
12/15/2008 Information Alert - Update on New York City Introduction 416-A
Attention New York City Area Motorcyclists
Legislation that would mandate the use of OEM (original equipment manufacturer) exhaust systems on all motorcycles in New York City has been "deferred" by the New York City Council. Originally scheduled for consideration at its December 18 meeting, Introduction 416-A has been removed from the agenda.
A representative in the Clerk of Council's office confirmed the removal of the legislation Monday (December 15) afternoon.
The bill would prohibit the parking, stopping or standing of any motorcycle equipped with "straight pipes." Under the definition of "straight pipe" in Intro 416-A, any motorcycle exhaust system not stamped with the U.S. EPA compliance label would be in violation of the law, regardless of the sound level emitted by the exhaust system.
Motorcyclists should continue contacting their City Council members to voice concern regarding this legislation.
For more information, visit the New York City Council Website at http://council.nyc.gov.
#3
Thanx for the 'update'.
New Yorkers, PLEASE don't sit on your hands here. NOW is the time to be callin' and writin'. If they cram it down your throats, the REST of us are next in line.
New Yorkers, PLEASE don't sit on your hands here. NOW is the time to be callin' and writin'. If they cram it down your throats, the REST of us are next in line.
#7
I posted this on the original thread last night:
That was the headline reported by the MRF’s Jeff Hennie this morning, and biker’s in New York, at least for some time, can breathe a collective sigh of relief. It’s not a time to celebrate yet, because the council could come back very soon and consider this bill again.
Basically, anyone parking a bike on the street in New York City would be subject to a $1,000 fine if there was no EPA sticker on the exhaust pipe. This stems from the Clean Air Act of 1979, a little known and unenforced, until now, rule from the federal government. The growing problem of excessively loud pipes has been popping up all over the country. One of the more watched and reported upon cases last year was the city of Del Ray Beach, Florida. There, the city wanted to exclude motorcycle access to a beach front area because of complaints of loud pipes. The bikers, motorcycle clubs and several rights’ organizations were able to change the council’s mind because of preemption and federal law that prohibits the denial of use of public roads that were wholly or partly funded by federal monies.
In Kenosha, Wisconsin, the sheriff indicated that his deputies would be out in force ticketing loud bikes during the Harley-Davidson 105th celebration. Hupy and Abraham, S.C. participated in meetings with the sheriff, along with local ABATE representatives, and the issue was resolved and we don’t know of any citations for loud pipes during the anniversary.
New York’s situation is unique in that the council there isn’t relying on a noise level, such as the required 80 decibel limit. Rather, the city is insisting that an EPS sticker must be affixed to the exhaust system and in plain view. That means a motorcycle doesn’t even have to be running to be cited for a violation. Besides the stiff penalty, confiscation of the bike is also part of the new rule for consideration.
Motorcycle groups, such as the AMA and MRF, find this both excessive and discriminatory in nature. We hope Speaker Christine Quinn will consider the many problems this bill will create and prevent it from moving forward. Meanwhile, the motorcycle community will search for ways to convince bikers to manage their throttles better, or we will see more restrictive laws coming in 2009. The impact of such legislation is unknown at this time, but it will certainly adversely affect the riders who own vintage motorcycles and the large cottage industry of after market exhaust systems
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New York City Council Pulls Motorcycle Noise Bill
Basically, anyone parking a bike on the street in New York City would be subject to a $1,000 fine if there was no EPA sticker on the exhaust pipe. This stems from the Clean Air Act of 1979, a little known and unenforced, until now, rule from the federal government. The growing problem of excessively loud pipes has been popping up all over the country. One of the more watched and reported upon cases last year was the city of Del Ray Beach, Florida. There, the city wanted to exclude motorcycle access to a beach front area because of complaints of loud pipes. The bikers, motorcycle clubs and several rights’ organizations were able to change the council’s mind because of preemption and federal law that prohibits the denial of use of public roads that were wholly or partly funded by federal monies.
In Kenosha, Wisconsin, the sheriff indicated that his deputies would be out in force ticketing loud bikes during the Harley-Davidson 105th celebration. Hupy and Abraham, S.C. participated in meetings with the sheriff, along with local ABATE representatives, and the issue was resolved and we don’t know of any citations for loud pipes during the anniversary.
New York’s situation is unique in that the council there isn’t relying on a noise level, such as the required 80 decibel limit. Rather, the city is insisting that an EPS sticker must be affixed to the exhaust system and in plain view. That means a motorcycle doesn’t even have to be running to be cited for a violation. Besides the stiff penalty, confiscation of the bike is also part of the new rule for consideration.
Motorcycle groups, such as the AMA and MRF, find this both excessive and discriminatory in nature. We hope Speaker Christine Quinn will consider the many problems this bill will create and prevent it from moving forward. Meanwhile, the motorcycle community will search for ways to convince bikers to manage their throttles better, or we will see more restrictive laws coming in 2009. The impact of such legislation is unknown at this time, but it will certainly adversely affect the riders who own vintage motorcycles and the large cottage industry of after market exhaust systems
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I take back all the things that may have been said about New York. But.... not your freekin, eekin politicians... keep them there within their own little gene pool!
#10
I felt so strong about this I double posted it. It's not over--it's just not now. This is a cash cow issue. People don't like motorcycles for many different reasons. From jealousy to the fact we are different. Motorcycles irritate a large section of people--they don't like to see us, hear us or even share the road with us. There are enough motorcycles to make it attractive to target us for fines and we are a fractured group most of the time and that makes us easy to attack. I use to never hear a biker say that another biker's bike is too loud or he rides too aggressive and is going to get us all in trouble. I read that crap here all the time now. It seems that the you meet the nicest people on a honda crowd now rides Harley's so they can now attack other Harley owners over pipes and ride. I can remember bikers not being welcome and biker discrimination. It still happens in some places and it still happens with insurance.
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