STOP NYC exhaust ban
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STOP NYC exhaust ban
EMAIL this jack *** they want all bikes to have a EPA sticker and want to tow all bikes away if you don't have it even if the bike isn't running and is parked.
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You folks in new York better get a handle on this idiot before things get way out of control. What I want to know is how they can enforce the law on bikes from another state that don't require the sticker in the first place. I know, they're the government and they can do what they want right???
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"No person shall stop, stand or park a motorcycle equipped with a straight pipe
on a street in the city of New York."Well if it passes you have the legal right to run red lights and stop signs as the law strictly prohibits stopping a motorcycle with straight pipes. Funny thing about this is I didn't see anything that says you can't operate one on the streets of New York, granted I just skimmed it.
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You folks in new York better get a handle on this idiot before things get way out of control. What I want to know is how they can enforce the law on bikes from another state that don't require the sticker in the first place. I know, they're the government and they can do what they want right???
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The "sticker" refered to here, is the Federal EPA stamp required on all street legal motorcycle exhaust systems. Simply not having the EPA stamp is a Federal offense and any State, County, City, etc. is free to chose to enforce the federal law if they desire to do so, for any reason.
There is a letter out from the EPA dated 7/25/2006. The letter is CISD-06-15 (MC). This is geared to builders of custom bikes where the builder builds 300 units or less. These bikes like Big Bear choppers, Big dog choppers meet all 2007 EPA rules. They have a stamp on the frame that states that they meet all EPA federal laws. I have a friend that built a 2007 EPA compliant chopper. The bike came with a Suppertrapp exhaust that is EPA compliant. The exhaust has no EPA stamp or marker plate. Big Dog chopper's have Vance & Hines Q series exhaust that is EPA compliant, no EPA stamp or marker plate. The bikes I am talking about meet all federal EPA rules, but you can't ride or have them on the road in certain places that have gone way beyond reasonable.
The fact is, there are aftermarket pipes that meet or exceed EPA emission requirements yet they do not have the stamp. The stamp has no relative bearing on the smog or sound emissions that may or may not exist at the time of testing. Therefore, having the stamp is irrelevant as it has little to do with whether or not the pipes actually meet the requirements either state or federal at the time and place the citation may be written. Moreover, if the pipes do have the stamp and because they are old actually exceed the legal sound limits, the law is so broad that bikes owner wouldn't be issued a ticket because the pipe hasn't been tampered with and does have the sticker. Like I said, the government can do anything they want until the people get so tired of it they fight back.
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Same problem as the idiots who wrote the assault weapons ban. Laws written by morons who know absolutely nothing about the thing they're writing about so filled with nonsense and contradictions that a 5 yr old could point out.
They need to have a court make a decision to clear this up. SOUND and emissions should be the only marker, not brand, stamp or no stamp, factory or not, etc. Those who live in NY are insane to put up with all the BS laws from all i've heard. As bad as Calif is it's not even close to the absurdity of NY and some of those communist NE states. Calif is hard-core conservative compared to the eastern states.
They need to have a court make a decision to clear this up. SOUND and emissions should be the only marker, not brand, stamp or no stamp, factory or not, etc. Those who live in NY are insane to put up with all the BS laws from all i've heard. As bad as Calif is it's not even close to the absurdity of NY and some of those communist NE states. Calif is hard-core conservative compared to the eastern states.
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Same problem as the idiots who wrote the assault weapons ban. Laws written by morons who know absolutely nothing about the thing they're writing about so filled with nonsense and contradictions that a 5 yr old could point out.
They need to have a court make a decision to clear this up. SOUND and emissions should be the only marker, not brand, stamp or no stamp, factory or not, etc. Those who live in NY are insane to put up with all the BS laws from all i've heard. As bad as Calif is it's not even close to the absurdity of NY and some of those communist NE states. Calif is hard-core conservative compared to the eastern states.
They need to have a court make a decision to clear this up. SOUND and emissions should be the only marker, not brand, stamp or no stamp, factory or not, etc. Those who live in NY are insane to put up with all the BS laws from all i've heard. As bad as Calif is it's not even close to the absurdity of NY and some of those communist NE states. Calif is hard-core conservative compared to the eastern states.
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The "sticker" refered to here, is the Federal EPA stamp required on all street legal motorcycle exhaust systems. Simply not having the EPA stamp is a Federal offense and any State, County, City, etc. is free to chose to enforce the federal law if they desire to do so, for any reason.