What are we doing wrong?
#121
My suggestion to anyone who wants to learn to ride.
Get a dirt bike and do some trail riding for a while, learn to handle the bike as the rear end hops around, learn to counter steer, learn to control the front end as it wants to tuck on you, learn to brake properly not stab at it like most do in a car, learn how the rear brake works.
The next step in my area is we have the fortune of cornerspin, go take their dirt bike course which is geared towards road racing but in the dirt. http://www.cornerspin.com/main.html
Since this is a Cruiser forum and many aren't going to accept this but here it is anyway.
Buy yourself a $2-3K sport bike a few years old and hit a road track and listen to the control riders. Learn your and your bikes limits in a controlled (as much as possible) environment.
Now while I ride my HD on the street I still have a sport bike I take out on the track a few times a year to keep my skills up.
Being prepared in a panic situation is no accident.
Get a dirt bike and do some trail riding for a while, learn to handle the bike as the rear end hops around, learn to counter steer, learn to control the front end as it wants to tuck on you, learn to brake properly not stab at it like most do in a car, learn how the rear brake works.
The next step in my area is we have the fortune of cornerspin, go take their dirt bike course which is geared towards road racing but in the dirt. http://www.cornerspin.com/main.html
Since this is a Cruiser forum and many aren't going to accept this but here it is anyway.
Buy yourself a $2-3K sport bike a few years old and hit a road track and listen to the control riders. Learn your and your bikes limits in a controlled (as much as possible) environment.
Now while I ride my HD on the street I still have a sport bike I take out on the track a few times a year to keep my skills up.
Being prepared in a panic situation is no accident.
#122
One of the guys at another branch lost control missed a curve hit a tree. died enroiute to the hospitol this happened last friday. New rider new bike. first time out I understand from the co workers who knew him.
He was with a couple seasoned riders, My guess they fell into the curve. newbie in back the other guys were leaving him behind and he speeded up and couldnt maintain his line. Very sad He is not the first and wont be the last. You'll be safe
He was with a couple seasoned riders, My guess they fell into the curve. newbie in back the other guys were leaving him behind and he speeded up and couldnt maintain his line. Very sad He is not the first and wont be the last. You'll be safe
I know many who are very fast riders who don't know the first thing about leading a newb.
Nice thing for me is when I started riding sport bikes there were alot of noob rides that were usually led by racers, control riders or guys/girls that have just done it alot.
Your job teaching a noob is to help teach them, make sure the pace isn't too fast, don't make them constantly have to catch up, let them know no one will get left behind, make sure they are comfortable and take their time. We were all new once.
While crashing is never a good thing often it is said our bikes will lean more than we realized (even our Harleys) and when in doubt, lean. Try not to stand it up and run off the road, hit a tree or a guard rail you may have made it if you leaned more and low siding might just save your life!
Stay away from the rear brake in a turn especially and if you have to trail brake in a turn do it very very very gently, it doesn't take much.
Don't just roll off the gas, it upset the entire bike.
#123
I was reading this morning about another biker killed yesterday when he ran off a curve and crashed into a wall. No other vehicles were involved.
There was two statistics the instructors told us at the motorcycle safety course that have stuck with me;
1. Over 50% of motorcycle deaths are single vehicle accidents.
2. Over 50% of motorcycle accidents involve alcohol.
The fix for the alcohol statistic is obvious, but how can we fix single vehicle accidents? I see these single vehicle motorcycle accidents a lot in the news, usually on curves. But I have personally passed a couple of accidents the last couple of years where the rider ran off the curve. What are we doing wrong?
Beary
There was two statistics the instructors told us at the motorcycle safety course that have stuck with me;
1. Over 50% of motorcycle deaths are single vehicle accidents.
2. Over 50% of motorcycle accidents involve alcohol.
The fix for the alcohol statistic is obvious, but how can we fix single vehicle accidents? I see these single vehicle motorcycle accidents a lot in the news, usually on curves. But I have personally passed a couple of accidents the last couple of years where the rider ran off the curve. What are we doing wrong?
Beary
#124
step one not be scared and start threads like this. lol. we are all responsiable for our own disteny i am sad when my brothers pass away on bikes. but every time we all jump on one, we know that it could be the last time.
Last edited by matt25; 08-29-2011 at 05:08 PM.
#125
I was reading this morning about another biker killed yesterday when he ran off a curve and crashed into a wall. No other vehicles were involved.
There was two statistics the instructors told us at the motorcycle safety course that have stuck with me;
1. Over 50% of motorcycle deaths are single vehicle accidents.
2. Over 50% of motorcycle accidents involve alcohol.
The fix for the alcohol statistic is obvious, but how can we fix single vehicle accidents? I see these single vehicle motorcycle accidents a lot in the news, usually on curves. But I have personally passed a couple of accidents the last couple of years where the rider ran off the curve. What are we doing wrong?
Beary
There was two statistics the instructors told us at the motorcycle safety course that have stuck with me;
1. Over 50% of motorcycle deaths are single vehicle accidents.
2. Over 50% of motorcycle accidents involve alcohol.
The fix for the alcohol statistic is obvious, but how can we fix single vehicle accidents? I see these single vehicle motorcycle accidents a lot in the news, usually on curves. But I have personally passed a couple of accidents the last couple of years where the rider ran off the curve. What are we doing wrong?
Beary
#126
I'm not against having a beer, but when you go past a bar and the parking lot is packed with bikes and bikers and has been all afternoon and evening, something's gonna happen, sooner or later.
#127
lol booom. and some people say they have no idea why the stats are the way they are. so many people buy bikes for gas mileage and to go to bike night at local bar. eventually lack of experience and alchol will bit you in the *** every time.
#128
I was reading this morning about another biker killed yesterday when he ran off a curve and crashed into a wall. No other vehicles were involved.
There was two statistics the instructors told us at the motorcycle safety course that have stuck with me;
1. Over 50% of motorcycle deaths are single vehicle accidents.
2. Over 50% of motorcycle accidents involve alcohol.
The fix for the alcohol statistic is obvious, but how can we fix single vehicle accidents? I see these single vehicle motorcycle accidents a lot in the news, usually on curves. But I have personally passed a couple of accidents the last couple of years where the rider ran off the curve. What are we doing wrong?
Beary
There was two statistics the instructors told us at the motorcycle safety course that have stuck with me;
1. Over 50% of motorcycle deaths are single vehicle accidents.
2. Over 50% of motorcycle accidents involve alcohol.
The fix for the alcohol statistic is obvious, but how can we fix single vehicle accidents? I see these single vehicle motorcycle accidents a lot in the news, usually on curves. But I have personally passed a couple of accidents the last couple of years where the rider ran off the curve. What are we doing wrong?
Beary
#129
Check out this one, the guy hit the back of a car on a highway in the middle of the night....
http://www.wmur.com/news/28997561/detail.html
http://www.wmur.com/news/28997561/detail.html
#130
Instead of spending money on mods and bling, more riders should invest in advanced training, such as a track day course.
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