The Wide Glide Frankenstein Trike Conversion Has Begun...
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TinCupChalice (05-12-2018)
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Here is one type of taillight/license plate mount:https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tri-Bar-Fen...laemSY&vxp=mtr
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TinCupChalice (05-12-2018)
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frankenstein on a dyna
To Tin Cup
Firstly let me explain. I am not trying to put you down and I am not telling you any thing mean. I am trying to protect you and I mean this with all respect
I think IMO that Frankenstein builds the best trike rear end on the market however it should not be put on a dyna in my opinion. When you look at the way the swing arm mounts on the dyna the only thing holding it on is the transmission which is just a small piece of aluminum bracket. The dyna has no frame that the swing arm goes through to help support it. The motor is also rubber mounted. When you hit a bump with one wheel that wheel will bounce up putting great stress on the transmission bracket and eventually it will break and the rear end will fall off. Take a close look and you will see I am telling the truth. The Frankenstein rear end is great on a softail, a sportster and on a touring bike as the swing arm bolt firstly goes through the frame then the transmission and then again through the frame. As I said I am only trying to stop you from getting hurt or worse. I mean no disrespect to you or to Frankenstein. Please take a close look at how the rear end is mounted. I had a 1999 dyna that was a great bike and I fully intended to trike it but after many phone calls, inquires and talking to many trike out fits I decided to get rid of the dyna solely for that purpose and bought a Freewheeler. I have also bought a sportster that I will be putting a Frankenstein kit on it. If you decide to disregard my advise I wish the best for you and hope every thing works out for you Just please check it out completely before riding on the highway
Firstly let me explain. I am not trying to put you down and I am not telling you any thing mean. I am trying to protect you and I mean this with all respect
I think IMO that Frankenstein builds the best trike rear end on the market however it should not be put on a dyna in my opinion. When you look at the way the swing arm mounts on the dyna the only thing holding it on is the transmission which is just a small piece of aluminum bracket. The dyna has no frame that the swing arm goes through to help support it. The motor is also rubber mounted. When you hit a bump with one wheel that wheel will bounce up putting great stress on the transmission bracket and eventually it will break and the rear end will fall off. Take a close look and you will see I am telling the truth. The Frankenstein rear end is great on a softail, a sportster and on a touring bike as the swing arm bolt firstly goes through the frame then the transmission and then again through the frame. As I said I am only trying to stop you from getting hurt or worse. I mean no disrespect to you or to Frankenstein. Please take a close look at how the rear end is mounted. I had a 1999 dyna that was a great bike and I fully intended to trike it but after many phone calls, inquires and talking to many trike out fits I decided to get rid of the dyna solely for that purpose and bought a Freewheeler. I have also bought a sportster that I will be putting a Frankenstein kit on it. If you decide to disregard my advise I wish the best for you and hope every thing works out for you Just please check it out completely before riding on the highway
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TinCupChalice (05-12-2018)
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Progress update: with the conversion together I was able to decide on the Goodridge brake line and fittings I'm going to need and they're on order. ::: looking at you, Bike Bandit ::: Fenders are still at prep/paint; once the rear brake line is installed I'm going to test fit the exhaust. I'm very hopeful that I can make it work with the rear axle positioning; I may lose the billet tips but the exhaust should clear. Now, if I could just get over the flu. Every time I start to feel better it comes back again. 'Captain Trips', anyone?
I appreciate your thoughts on this. This was a part of my thought process through last fall and this winter before I ordered the Frankenstein kit. As you well know, the Dyna is a unique animal. With the Dyna you have to think in different terms. The front wheel, forks, fuel tank, and frame are the rolling chassis; the engine, primary, transmission, exhaust, rear fork, and rear wheel(s) are riding on the isolators with a top stabilizer. Acceleration and braking forces try to push and pull the engine/primary/transmission/rear assembly in the frame through the mounts and engine torque tries to pitch it up and down at the front. The rear shocks exert a constant rearward pull on the mounts due to their angle; basically, the mounts are a knife edge and rely 100% on the top stabilizer for vertical alignment.
The vehicle/engine alignment is critical on the Dyna; and now as a trike, it's going to be even more critical; vertical alignment as to be exact. You are correct on the mounting of the rear fork; on later model Dyna's the rear fork uses a spacer and a dust cover on the right side, and a press fit pivot bearing and an interference fit spacer on the left side. The hollow pivot shaft rides in the transmission boss making the entire rear assembly a part of the isolator/mount system.
My plan is to verify alignment before this bike even sees first light. I know she was in perfect alignment previously but with changes this dramatic, 'trust but verify'. I have replaced the front and rear mounts with aftermarket and use a solid top stabilizer with a proper turnbuckle for accurate 0.00 vertical alignment, measured at the rear brake rotor. Would it be possible to overload that transmission boss? I don't know; the left side rear fork pivot bearing takes the brunt of the load and it is a wear item, ignored by many Dyna owners. I've replaced my pivot bearing in my old rear fork and when I removed the old fork to install the new fork that bearing was showing wear so that will require an accelerated replacement schedule. I ::: think ::: I can finesse that new rear fork out without disturbing the rear axle assembly by having her rear wheels on the ground and the bike supported with a platform scissor lift.
This wasn't a simple bolt on piece of bling, this is a major change and I am out in the tall grass doing something most don't do, and using a Wide Glide to do it. I will be taking it slow and easy when the bike does finally hit the road checking for any stability or handling issues. A Softail or a Sportster may have perhaps been a more appropriate candidate to trike out; the Dyna brings added challenges both during the conversion process and then later on, but honestly, I wanted to use my Wide Glide. I believe that with proper maintenance this is going to be one uncommonly seen ride
Edited to add:
Going to start out with the stock Wide Glide trees at first. With the fork tubes, I've currently got them a +3" over Wide Glide but I can change that length should I find the longer tubes have gone too far. Bikes/trikes with more trail are great for stability at speed but makes low speed handling 'heavier'. We shall see. That's what makes this entire thing so much fun; I don't know, but I'm certainly not afraid to find out
To Tin Cup
Firstly let me explain. I am not trying to put you down and I am not telling you any thing mean. I am trying to protect you and I mean this with all respect
I think IMO that Frankenstein builds the best trike rear end on the market however it should not be put on a dyna in my opinion. When you look at the way the swing arm mounts on the dyna the only thing holding it on is the transmission which is just a small piece of aluminum bracket. The dyna has no frame that the swing arm goes through to help support it. The motor is also rubber mounted. When you hit a bump with one wheel that wheel will bounce up putting great stress on the transmission bracket and eventually it will break and the rear end will fall off. Take a close look and you will see I am telling the truth. The Frankenstein rear end is great on a softail, a sportster and on a touring bike as the swing arm bolt firstly goes through the frame then the transmission and then again through the frame. As I said I am only trying to stop you from getting hurt or worse. I mean no disrespect to you or to Frankenstein. Please take a close look at how the rear end is mounted. I had a 1999 dyna that was a great bike and I fully intended to trike it but after many phone calls, inquires and talking to many trike out fits I decided to get rid of the dyna solely for that purpose and bought a Freewheeler. I have also bought a sportster that I will be putting a Frankenstein kit on it. If you decide to disregard my advise I wish the best for you and hope every thing works out for you Just please check it out completely before riding on the highway
Firstly let me explain. I am not trying to put you down and I am not telling you any thing mean. I am trying to protect you and I mean this with all respect
I think IMO that Frankenstein builds the best trike rear end on the market however it should not be put on a dyna in my opinion. When you look at the way the swing arm mounts on the dyna the only thing holding it on is the transmission which is just a small piece of aluminum bracket. The dyna has no frame that the swing arm goes through to help support it. The motor is also rubber mounted. When you hit a bump with one wheel that wheel will bounce up putting great stress on the transmission bracket and eventually it will break and the rear end will fall off. Take a close look and you will see I am telling the truth. The Frankenstein rear end is great on a softail, a sportster and on a touring bike as the swing arm bolt firstly goes through the frame then the transmission and then again through the frame. As I said I am only trying to stop you from getting hurt or worse. I mean no disrespect to you or to Frankenstein. Please take a close look at how the rear end is mounted. I had a 1999 dyna that was a great bike and I fully intended to trike it but after many phone calls, inquires and talking to many trike out fits I decided to get rid of the dyna solely for that purpose and bought a Freewheeler. I have also bought a sportster that I will be putting a Frankenstein kit on it. If you decide to disregard my advise I wish the best for you and hope every thing works out for you Just please check it out completely before riding on the highway
I appreciate your thoughts on this. This was a part of my thought process through last fall and this winter before I ordered the Frankenstein kit. As you well know, the Dyna is a unique animal. With the Dyna you have to think in different terms. The front wheel, forks, fuel tank, and frame are the rolling chassis; the engine, primary, transmission, exhaust, rear fork, and rear wheel(s) are riding on the isolators with a top stabilizer. Acceleration and braking forces try to push and pull the engine/primary/transmission/rear assembly in the frame through the mounts and engine torque tries to pitch it up and down at the front. The rear shocks exert a constant rearward pull on the mounts due to their angle; basically, the mounts are a knife edge and rely 100% on the top stabilizer for vertical alignment.
The vehicle/engine alignment is critical on the Dyna; and now as a trike, it's going to be even more critical; vertical alignment as to be exact. You are correct on the mounting of the rear fork; on later model Dyna's the rear fork uses a spacer and a dust cover on the right side, and a press fit pivot bearing and an interference fit spacer on the left side. The hollow pivot shaft rides in the transmission boss making the entire rear assembly a part of the isolator/mount system.
My plan is to verify alignment before this bike even sees first light. I know she was in perfect alignment previously but with changes this dramatic, 'trust but verify'. I have replaced the front and rear mounts with aftermarket and use a solid top stabilizer with a proper turnbuckle for accurate 0.00 vertical alignment, measured at the rear brake rotor. Would it be possible to overload that transmission boss? I don't know; the left side rear fork pivot bearing takes the brunt of the load and it is a wear item, ignored by many Dyna owners. I've replaced my pivot bearing in my old rear fork and when I removed the old fork to install the new fork that bearing was showing wear so that will require an accelerated replacement schedule. I ::: think ::: I can finesse that new rear fork out without disturbing the rear axle assembly by having her rear wheels on the ground and the bike supported with a platform scissor lift.
This wasn't a simple bolt on piece of bling, this is a major change and I am out in the tall grass doing something most don't do, and using a Wide Glide to do it. I will be taking it slow and easy when the bike does finally hit the road checking for any stability or handling issues. A Softail or a Sportster may have perhaps been a more appropriate candidate to trike out; the Dyna brings added challenges both during the conversion process and then later on, but honestly, I wanted to use my Wide Glide. I believe that with proper maintenance this is going to be one uncommonly seen ride
Edited to add:
Going to start out with the stock Wide Glide trees at first. With the fork tubes, I've currently got them a +3" over Wide Glide but I can change that length should I find the longer tubes have gone too far. Bikes/trikes with more trail are great for stability at speed but makes low speed handling 'heavier'. We shall see. That's what makes this entire thing so much fun; I don't know, but I'm certainly not afraid to find out
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TinCupChalice (05-13-2018)
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By reading your reply it sounds like you have made many requires and know what you are doing. Your trike will be a great looking machine when it is finished. I know you will love riding it and also like the attention it will draw wherever you go. The reason I made my comment was that I have seen a dyna wide glide similar to yours that had broken the transmission mount and caused a lot of damage and I didn't want that to happen to you. So I wanted you to be sure to check ever thing out before riding. Have a great time with it and keep us posted after you have put a few thousand miles on it
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