Power Vision Information Thread
#5221
I figured it out, I was selecting all values to save, and not the selected valued needed, VE front, VE rear, AFR, and front & rear spark knock.
Ever since I "updated" my tune using the "update your tune using PV" on the WinPV software I get this message when I use the Power Vision Log Tuner software to look at my data logs. When I hit the "Open PVV" button and then select the "updated" tune's .pvv file I get this:
What's the deal? Do I just ignore this or what did I mess up?
Thanks Mike
What's the deal? Do I just ignore this or what did I mess up?
Thanks Mike
#5223
Hello, is there any benefit in letting auto tune run for an extended period of time 100 miles or more over a few days of riding? I have read a few guys doing this.
I have my value changes down to 1% or less after doing 10 auto tune runs each lasting 20-30 minutes.
Just curious if this would make any difference?
Thanks!
I have my value changes down to 1% or less after doing 10 auto tune runs each lasting 20-30 minutes.
Just curious if this would make any difference?
Thanks!
#5224
Hello, is there any benefit in letting auto tune run for an extended period of time 100 miles or more over a few days of riding? I have read a few guys doing this.
I have my value changes down to 1% or less after doing 10 auto tune runs each lasting 20-30 minutes.
Just curious if this would make any difference?
Thanks!
I have my value changes down to 1% or less after doing 10 auto tune runs each lasting 20-30 minutes.
Just curious if this would make any difference?
Thanks!
I don't know how much on-board memory is available for longer runs...but you can run it til you run out.
#5225
If you run in autotune for 10 hours than wouldn't you be running 14.6 and 4 degrees retarded all that time? And if you shut down the bike what happens to the autotune you are running?
Just asking to learn Power Vision I installed last Friday.
thx
Oilsmoke
Just asking to learn Power Vision I installed last Friday.
thx
Oilsmoke
Last edited by Oilsmoke; 08-15-2013 at 02:27 PM. Reason: add stuff
#5226
I'm jealous of the previous poster being within 1% for the VEs after 10 runs. That's pretty awesome.
I also have a question about the standard AT Basic process. I was going along real good, if not slowly doing iterative AT runs, with better results each time up to my AT-007. Then, recently I did my 8th AT Basic run, this afternoon, and whoa! the AT percent differences are like 15% all over the map!
Yikes, what happened?
The only thing I can say was any different was that the weather has changed considerable. Most of the previous AT runs were done in plus 80'F weather and now this past run was low 70s, maybe cooler. But could that have made that kind of difference?
I'm inclined to delete this run and start again at the 07 it is so much different. I expected to see all cells with a few percent, as the previous run I had them down to everything under 5 except for a few cells.
I also have a question about the standard AT Basic process. I was going along real good, if not slowly doing iterative AT runs, with better results each time up to my AT-007. Then, recently I did my 8th AT Basic run, this afternoon, and whoa! the AT percent differences are like 15% all over the map!
Yikes, what happened?
The only thing I can say was any different was that the weather has changed considerable. Most of the previous AT runs were done in plus 80'F weather and now this past run was low 70s, maybe cooler. But could that have made that kind of difference?
I'm inclined to delete this run and start again at the 07 it is so much different. I expected to see all cells with a few percent, as the previous run I had them down to everything under 5 except for a few cells.
#5227
The best way to do it is to set up your datalog like you would for a full LT tune. Then take the tick marks out of VE f and VE r and let log tuner make ONLY timing corrections. It will correct the tune but leave the VE's alone (they should be good already right?). So, if you're going to start from scratch here's what I'd do. Seeing as how you've already messed with timing I would get rid of all knock events.
Then do 2 more VE runs to make sure they're good. Then come back and add 1 degree across the entire table from 1500 to 5000 and from 30 kPa to 80 kPa. Then datalog and run it through LT again. Let LT tweak any knock events until they're all gone. LT corrects and you reflash. Keep doing it until all knocks are gone.
Thanks!
#5228
I posted this on another thread, before I seen this thread, I hope it is OK.
I have a 2009 HD Ultra Classic. I have 4" Rineharts slip on's, a HD SE Air Cleaner. It ran strong with a TFI (Dobeck) fuel manegement. When I installed the TFI, I removed the O2 sensors as instructed. It was like this for 4 years. Last week I had HD due a upgrade to a 103" with 255 cams. I did this sense I was getting the SE Compensator upgrade and could save some labor. Long story short, the bike runs terrible. I picked it up and it starts and idles good, but under any load at all, it hesitates terribly. If I baby it up, it will get the RPM's but if I give any throttle, hesitates and even backfires. I removed the TFI and returned to HD. They say that the flash does not seem to work and I need a tuner and dyno. I told them that I was buying a power vision, and that they need to have it running normal before I will accept it. Then I will install my Power Vision. Question is this: They still have my O2 sensors unhooked, can this be the problem? They replaced headers a year ago under warranty and never replaced O2 sensors, that is why they are not hooked up, although they will be tomorrow. 2nd, will the Power vision correct this? Or just provide downloads? Concerned may be more problems Thanks
I have a 2009 HD Ultra Classic. I have 4" Rineharts slip on's, a HD SE Air Cleaner. It ran strong with a TFI (Dobeck) fuel manegement. When I installed the TFI, I removed the O2 sensors as instructed. It was like this for 4 years. Last week I had HD due a upgrade to a 103" with 255 cams. I did this sense I was getting the SE Compensator upgrade and could save some labor. Long story short, the bike runs terrible. I picked it up and it starts and idles good, but under any load at all, it hesitates terribly. If I baby it up, it will get the RPM's but if I give any throttle, hesitates and even backfires. I removed the TFI and returned to HD. They say that the flash does not seem to work and I need a tuner and dyno. I told them that I was buying a power vision, and that they need to have it running normal before I will accept it. Then I will install my Power Vision. Question is this: They still have my O2 sensors unhooked, can this be the problem? They replaced headers a year ago under warranty and never replaced O2 sensors, that is why they are not hooked up, although they will be tomorrow. 2nd, will the Power vision correct this? Or just provide downloads? Concerned may be more problems Thanks
#5229
I posted this on another thread, before I seen this thread, I hope it is OK.
I have a 2009 HD Ultra Classic. I have 4" Rineharts slip on's, a HD SE Air Cleaner. It ran strong with a TFI (Dobeck) fuel manegement. When I installed the TFI, I removed the O2 sensors as instructed. It was like this for 4 years. Last week I had HD due a upgrade to a 103" with 255 cams. I did this sense I was getting the SE Compensator upgrade and could save some labor. Long story short, the bike runs terrible. I picked it up and it starts and idles good, but under any load at all, it hesitates terribly. If I baby it up, it will get the RPM's but if I give any throttle, hesitates and even backfires. I removed the TFI and returned to HD. They say that the flash does not seem to work and I need a tuner and dyno. I told them that I was buying a power vision, and that they need to have it running normal before I will accept it. Then I will install my Power Vision. Question is this: They still have my O2 sensors unhooked, can this be the problem? They replaced headers a year ago under warranty and never replaced O2 sensors, that is why they are not hooked up, although they will be tomorrow. 2nd, will the Power vision correct this? Or just provide downloads? Concerned may be more problems Thanks
I have a 2009 HD Ultra Classic. I have 4" Rineharts slip on's, a HD SE Air Cleaner. It ran strong with a TFI (Dobeck) fuel manegement. When I installed the TFI, I removed the O2 sensors as instructed. It was like this for 4 years. Last week I had HD due a upgrade to a 103" with 255 cams. I did this sense I was getting the SE Compensator upgrade and could save some labor. Long story short, the bike runs terrible. I picked it up and it starts and idles good, but under any load at all, it hesitates terribly. If I baby it up, it will get the RPM's but if I give any throttle, hesitates and even backfires. I removed the TFI and returned to HD. They say that the flash does not seem to work and I need a tuner and dyno. I told them that I was buying a power vision, and that they need to have it running normal before I will accept it. Then I will install my Power Vision. Question is this: They still have my O2 sensors unhooked, can this be the problem? They replaced headers a year ago under warranty and never replaced O2 sensors, that is why they are not hooked up, although they will be tomorrow. 2nd, will the Power vision correct this? Or just provide downloads? Concerned may be more problems Thanks
I'm no expert, others will chime in, But I feel in order to get the most out of the PV you will need those O2 sensors. I also think in order for yor HD flash to work good you need those O2 sensors.
#5230
I posted this on another thread, before I seen this thread, I hope it is OK.
I have a 2009 HD Ultra Classic. I have 4" Rineharts slip on's, a HD SE Air Cleaner. It ran strong with a TFI (Dobeck) fuel manegement. When I installed the TFI, I removed the O2 sensors as instructed. It was like this for 4 years. Last week I had HD due a upgrade to a 103" with 255 cams. I did this sense I was getting the SE Compensator upgrade and could save some labor. Long story short, the bike runs terrible. I picked it up and it starts and idles good, but under any load at all, it hesitates terribly. If I baby it up, it will get the RPM's but if I give any throttle, hesitates and even backfires. I removed the TFI and returned to HD. They say that the flash does not seem to work and I need a tuner and dyno. I told them that I was buying a power vision, and that they need to have it running normal before I will accept it. Then I will install my Power Vision. Question is this: They still have my O2 sensors unhooked, can this be the problem? They replaced headers a year ago under warranty and never replaced O2 sensors, that is why they are not hooked up, although they will be tomorrow. 2nd, will the Power vision correct this? Or just provide downloads? Concerned may be more problems Thanks
I have a 2009 HD Ultra Classic. I have 4" Rineharts slip on's, a HD SE Air Cleaner. It ran strong with a TFI (Dobeck) fuel manegement. When I installed the TFI, I removed the O2 sensors as instructed. It was like this for 4 years. Last week I had HD due a upgrade to a 103" with 255 cams. I did this sense I was getting the SE Compensator upgrade and could save some labor. Long story short, the bike runs terrible. I picked it up and it starts and idles good, but under any load at all, it hesitates terribly. If I baby it up, it will get the RPM's but if I give any throttle, hesitates and even backfires. I removed the TFI and returned to HD. They say that the flash does not seem to work and I need a tuner and dyno. I told them that I was buying a power vision, and that they need to have it running normal before I will accept it. Then I will install my Power Vision. Question is this: They still have my O2 sensors unhooked, can this be the problem? They replaced headers a year ago under warranty and never replaced O2 sensors, that is why they are not hooked up, although they will be tomorrow. 2nd, will the Power vision correct this? Or just provide downloads? Concerned may be more problems Thanks