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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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Hi !
I'm planing to paint my bikes frame, so there comes some issues that aluminium certification label does anyone sell those ?
Label is lightlly damaged but readable, it would be nice to replace it with new one.
I have understand that label are different between models and years [&o]
 
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Being curious, what year model do you have?
 
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 02:39 AM
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sepixlh, I do not believe the Motor Company sells replacement tags and in my years of riding I have never heard of any. Its one tag...one frame that matches the motor. If they sold them there would be a lot of stolen scoots out there being driven under false pretense..ie, you stack up your bike, the motor survived but the frame is trashed. You steal a like year, dump the cases, strip the tag and request new ones to match your motor. Seem like someone would be opening Pandora's box with that.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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If it were me, I would just rip the tag off and paint the frame. The bike is yours, you know you bought it and you have a title with the engine number listed as the same one stamped into the cases. So what's the problem?
Suppose you wanted to get an older rigid frame and put your engine into it? The above is exactly what you would do. I really don't think you will have any problem. Well, you might if you live in California, but that would be another good reason to vacate that damn state. Just call your state DMV and see what they tell you to do regarding installing an older frame........pg
 
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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piniongear. I live in the people's Republik of Kalif and I guarantee that you will have problems doing that here. I think your idea is a good one to have him check to see if his local DMV laws allow for that to occur.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 02:40 PM
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panz....
I hear you there. That is why I thought, 'Wait a minute...I better qualify that comment to include the Golden State.' I live in Texas and they are pretty easy to deal with so far. Texas is only about two steps behind Cal though. It seems like what is done on the West Coast is copied by the Gulf Coast a few short years later.
My brother lives in Encinitas. He rides a '58 Pan and is building a 1955 Pan and a 1947 Knuckle from parts. He tells me what is involved in getting license plates on these two builds. Unbelieveable! I am betting he will not be totally sucessful in getting both on the road. I mean, turn signals on a 1947 Knuck? Groan, give us a break here...........pg
 
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Old Oct 19, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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It's doable, it just takes some hoops to jump through. I had to do that 20 years ago with my '77 sporty. It was abandoned and we had to do some serious leg work to make sure it passed mustard w/ the great state of Californication, mainly because the engine and the frame were not matching.

If you're in California I would not take that tag off until you get all your ducks in a row. Talk to a local paint/restore shop to see what they do, or something. But one little mistake can cause you endless headaches in that state!
 
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Old Oct 20, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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Plan is restore bike competely and in that process sticker need to be removed [8D] So for that other stuff... bike has matching # in frame and engine and title is clean with my name on it We don't wanted to deal here with "hot" parts
Bike is 1978 and picture can be found https://www.hdforums.com/photo_view.asp?file=0;781234 here
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 02:11 AM
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Ain't the VIN stamped on the frame neck? That stamped number is what counts, not that cheezy glued on tag. "Beats me officer, I was washing it at the car wash, and the dam thing came off and musta went down the drain!"

Seriously, the stamped VIN number is what is important, not the stick-on one that anybody could steal.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2006 | 02:37 AM
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sepixlh, okay I know this may go against your thinking but hear me out. I grew up on an old K model sporty. Pop said if you can kick it over its yours. It took me a while to figure it out and I dumped that bike a lot before I got it right but it was my intro to HDs so I have always had a soft spot for Sportys...which leads me to yours. I looked at the pic you posted. Dude that is one very sweet bike.

Been riding HDs for almost 40 years and been collecting literature and books for almost as long. As soon as I saw your bike I went to a book titled "Harley Davidson, The American History, text by Allan Gridler, Photos by Ron Hussey. Turning to page 77 is a pic of a 1977 XLCR just one year older than yours. I am sure there are some minor differences in the year model, but I got to tell you that at first glance it is all you.

With that in mind, I looked at another reference book. The Motor Company only made a tad over 1,200 XLCRs for 1978. You just have to ask...how many are still around almost 30 years later....how many are in almost stock condition (which from the pic you posted seems to be the case).

A stock bike with imperfections from road wear will always be worth more than one that is "restored" to stock specifications. I know it is your bike but all you folks that ride Sportys (and there is definitely a bunch) should look at the pic and definitely throw your $00.02 out there. What he has is only original one time. If you choose to restore it it is not original anymore. I say ride it and enjoy it. You have an original piece of Willie G inspired history. If someone gives you any negative vibes, smile and tell them to kiss your ****.
 
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