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Old 07-07-2017, 08:38 PM
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Thank you Steve Cole for that. It seems that the part number for the oil pump that has been floating around for a little while is not the part number that this update is suggesting. 62400178 doesn't seem to be a good part number yet. Oh Joy... my motor will stay two pieces for an undetermined period of time
 
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Yep, this is exactly what happened to my 2017 CVO Limited with Stage 4 kit. HD express shipped a new engine to my dealer for installation. They are also covering the costs for parts and labor to re-install a new Stage 4 kit on the new engine once the kits are released. Its also worth noting that if the rods and crank are stiff and the engine is being replaced, they will also ship a new oil pan to ensure no debris from the failing engine contaminates the new engine. I'm picking up my bike with the new engine tomorrow. https://www.hdforums.com/forum/milwa...ddressing.html
 

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Does anyone know if the twincam o-ring # 11289A is correct for the M8 Crank sensor? I called two dealers and they could only tell me the o-ring comes with the sensor and cant find it separately.
 
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Does anyone know if the twincam o-ring # 11289A is correct for the M8 Crank sensor? I called two dealers and they could only tell me the o-ring comes with the sensor and cant find it separately.
From the parts list off SIP for my bike

 
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Thank you Steve Cole for that. It seems that the part number for the oil pump that has been floating around for a little while is not the part number that this update is suggesting. 62400178 doesn't seem to be a good part number yet. Oh Joy... my motor will stay two pieces for an undetermined period of time
There have been several revisions to the oil pumps so far. People just are not aware of them all. I believe these are the 5th revision level for the pumps since introduction of the M8. One has to wonder what they are going to put in the 2018, as production for them starts in a few weeks.
 
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Old 07-13-2017, 12:41 PM
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Here is a list of all the part number oil pumps I have seen so far on the M8 engines

62400119
62400122
62400121
62400124
62400143
62400146
62400178
62400182

Also a picture of a 62400144 but I am sure there are others out there floating around too.
 

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Dang. Sounds like they can't figure out what the problem is. That's a LOT of revisions. Just wondering how good their engineers are?
 
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Originally Posted by Steve Cole
Here is a list of all the part number oil pumps I have seen so far on the M8 engines

62400119
62400122
62400121
62400124
62400143
62400146
62400178
62400182

Also a picture of a 62400144 but I am sure there are others out there floating around too.
Holy Guacamole! started out as 2..guess that 1.5 million miles and 7000 hours of accelerated dyno testing just wasn't quite good enough
 
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[QUOTE=mjwebb;16427791]Holy Guacamole! started out as 2..guess that 1.5 million miles and 7000 hours of accelerated dyno testing just wasn't quite good enough[/QUOTE

Not that I could figure it out. Cause I couldn't. But its an oil pump. Not the freaking space shuttle.
 
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Just saw this job posted and thought it was for this very thread


Sr. Project Engineer - Lubrication, Breathing, and Cooling Systems
Harley-Davidson - Wauwatosa, WI
Auto req ID: 4996BR
Title: Sr. Project Engineer - Lubrication, Breathing, and Cooling Systems
Job Function: Engineering
State and City: Wisconsin, Wauwatosa
Company: Harley-Davidson Motor Company
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Shift: Shift 1

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Although the Senior Project Engineer does not have any direct reports, they will be a consultant and coach for internal employees. This role will be influential in moving from current cooling and lubrication technology to future state systems that will help propel Harley-Davidson to creating the next generation of motorcycles. This role has the growth opportunity to develop into a future leader for H-D across the company.

Education Required
A Bachelor’s Degree in Mechanical Engineering or related technical area is required.

Experience Required
Position requires 5 years of hands-on engineering experience specifically related to designing and implementing powertrain systems and components.
- Experience working on Cooling Systems is required. Working knowledge of Cooling Technology and Circuits can include; heat transfer, pump design, fluid dynamics, pressure monitoring, and coolant/air flow through the system.
- Experience working on Lubrication Systems is required. This experience can include; heat transfer, chemistry of oils, durability, filtration, testing methods, and pump design.
- Expert level knowledge related analytical or empirical tools (i.e. GT Cool, Thermodynamics calculations, Fluid Dynamic calculations, FEA, Weibull)
- Experience working on Breathing Systems is strongly preferred, but not required. Knowledge should be surrounding CFD, system design, and testing methods
 


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