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Old 04-08-2018, 04:33 PM
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Whether you have 6 flashes or 50 flashes vs what the dealer shows won't be a problem if you also own a Street Tuner. The Street Tuner is designed to flash the ECU by the owner. The ECU will show the # of flashes but no way to tell the flashes were made by the Street Tuner or another tuner.
There has been many people who say otherwise. According to those folks, the MoCo can tell what kind of tuner you used to make those flashes.
 
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Old 04-08-2018, 06:28 PM
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There has been many people who say otherwise. According to those folks, the MoCo can tell what kind of tuner you used to make those flashes.
Who might those “people” be?
 
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Originally Posted by Heatwave
Whether you have 6 flashes or 50 flashes vs what the dealer shows won't be a problem if you also own a Street Tuner. The Street Tuner is designed to flash the ECU by the owner. The ECU will show the # of flashes but no way to tell the flashes were made by the Street Tuner or another tuner.
I know in the heavy duty diesel world the tool last used to calibrate sensors or change parameters id number is recorded when changes are made. this is done to be able to trace the tool should there be a problem. this technology has been around 20+ years. I would suspect that Harley could do the same thing with little difficulty. It would be nice to know for sure exactly how HD does things. As usual around here rumors and speculation will be the most abundant information on these forums.
 
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I dont believe there is a way to scam this epa agreement. If warranty is a concern use the screaming eagle stuff or leave it stock.
 
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your friend is talking about the Thundermax ECM replacement. while it does replace the stock ECM it is a job to re & re out. It also uses an 18mm bung v. the 12mm stock sensors.
 
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Love it!
 
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Love it!
How'd that work out for ya'!
 
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Sometimes I get a little bit crazy! LOL
 
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Folks any dealer since 1978 (not just 10 years ago) can be fined $10K per event of tampering with anything to do with keeping the vehicle EPA compliant. EPA has only went after manufacturers deep pockets so far as they don't have the staff to go after all dealerships.

But give them time to grow their empire and watch out.
 
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You guys are a hoot!

Hundreds and hundreds of posts about all the things wrong that the Mother Ship does / misses / forgot about / just doesn't seem to care about. You guys make it sound like the Mother Ship could not plan a Frat Party in a Brewery.

But when it comes to the ECM suddenly the Mother Ship is "ALL POWERFUL and ALL KNOWING".

According to the stuff some of you guys write HD does not know how to build a motorcycle / engine but they are kick **** white knight hackers when it comes to programming.....

Seriously.... make up your minds.
 
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