Shifting issues w/ 2019 Street Bob
#41
The Saga Continues
Hello friends. I have some news about my bike I want so share for those who indicated they may be having similiar issues. The shifting issue resurfaced the very next ride after I hesitantly reported success. The frequency significantly reduced after H-D changed the primary fluid and re-adjusted the clutch but the problem was still there. I decided I would just live with it for a couple thousand miles to see if it continued to get better as the metals smoothed out. I rode the bike for a few weeks and put about 600 more miles on it and just lived with the issue as a quirk of this bike.
Last week, however, I noticed drops of fluid under the bike and found the entire bottom of the primary housing to be covered with fluid. Trying to find the source of the leak, I noticed that it appeard to be originating from the shift arm bearing (see attached pictures). What are the odds that I was now getting leaks from the same shifter that seems to not want to go into 2nd gear when it gets hot? I brought it into H-D for the third time. This time I went to a different dealer farther from my home, but much bigger. My main goal was to stop the leak as I had pretty much given up on trying to resolve the shifting issue. I did however mention that I was having shifting issues that I thought could be related. I hypothesized that maybe the seal bearing was out of spec and seizing up when the bike got hot preventing smooth/complete shifting. Maybe the bearing was also wearing down over time from rubbing resulting in leaking after it cooled down and the metals srank back to size at room temperature.
This dealership really took my issues seriously because they knew they would have to pull the transmission to replace the seal and they didn't want to have to go in there twice. I asked them to please ride the bike for at least an hour. I told them they could let the tech bring my bike home and ride it all weekend if necessary. They had my bike in the shop since last Friday and today they confirmed the following:
1) The technician replicated my 2nd gear shifting issue after an extended test reide (THANK FREAKING GOD!!!)
2) The shifter lever seal was leaking
3) The primary drain plug was leaking
Today they pulled apart the Gear Shifter Assembly to do the following repairs: (a) replace the shifting mechanism, (b) replace the inner bearing race, (c) replace the vehicle speed sensor (why???), (d) replae the shift shaft seal, (e) replace the shift lever sleeve, (f) replace the drain plug, (g) replace all associated gaskets/o-rings.
The repairs are supposed to be finished today. After I get the bike back and test ride the heck out of it... I'll let you guys know the outcome.
Here are pictures (sorry...not the best quality) showing the "ring" of fluid leaking around the shift lever seal. This is after I thoroughly washed the area and rode it around for a couple of hours to try to find the source of the leak. The leaking was much more pronounced a few days later when I brought it in to H-D for diagnosis.
Last week, however, I noticed drops of fluid under the bike and found the entire bottom of the primary housing to be covered with fluid. Trying to find the source of the leak, I noticed that it appeard to be originating from the shift arm bearing (see attached pictures). What are the odds that I was now getting leaks from the same shifter that seems to not want to go into 2nd gear when it gets hot? I brought it into H-D for the third time. This time I went to a different dealer farther from my home, but much bigger. My main goal was to stop the leak as I had pretty much given up on trying to resolve the shifting issue. I did however mention that I was having shifting issues that I thought could be related. I hypothesized that maybe the seal bearing was out of spec and seizing up when the bike got hot preventing smooth/complete shifting. Maybe the bearing was also wearing down over time from rubbing resulting in leaking after it cooled down and the metals srank back to size at room temperature.
This dealership really took my issues seriously because they knew they would have to pull the transmission to replace the seal and they didn't want to have to go in there twice. I asked them to please ride the bike for at least an hour. I told them they could let the tech bring my bike home and ride it all weekend if necessary. They had my bike in the shop since last Friday and today they confirmed the following:
1) The technician replicated my 2nd gear shifting issue after an extended test reide (THANK FREAKING GOD!!!)
2) The shifter lever seal was leaking
3) The primary drain plug was leaking
Today they pulled apart the Gear Shifter Assembly to do the following repairs: (a) replace the shifting mechanism, (b) replace the inner bearing race, (c) replace the vehicle speed sensor (why???), (d) replae the shift shaft seal, (e) replace the shift lever sleeve, (f) replace the drain plug, (g) replace all associated gaskets/o-rings.
The repairs are supposed to be finished today. After I get the bike back and test ride the heck out of it... I'll let you guys know the outcome.
Here are pictures (sorry...not the best quality) showing the "ring" of fluid leaking around the shift lever seal. This is after I thoroughly washed the area and rode it around for a couple of hours to try to find the source of the leak. The leaking was much more pronounced a few days later when I brought it in to H-D for diagnosis.
Last edited by M1chael; 12-05-2018 at 03:35 PM. Reason: fixed grammar
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Warrant (12-09-2018)
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I am happy for you - glad it got sorted out.
Seriously though however, as an owner of a 2018 RG and a long, long, long time Harley Kool-Aid drinker, when will they get their design and QC in line with their price point??!*^$%!&^!%^!^%
I really, really want to love my new Road Glide and want to purchase a new Low Rider but honestly ... I'm holding off because of the QC issues.
I run a Suzuki Bandit 1250S and ride it like I stole it! I also run a Suzuki 650DR and it has been great to me. I like Harley .. . just wish they would like me back.
As a long time H-D fan boy, I am losing faith.
Seriously though however, as an owner of a 2018 RG and a long, long, long time Harley Kool-Aid drinker, when will they get their design and QC in line with their price point??!*^$%!&^!%^!^%
I really, really want to love my new Road Glide and want to purchase a new Low Rider but honestly ... I'm holding off because of the QC issues.
I run a Suzuki Bandit 1250S and ride it like I stole it! I also run a Suzuki 650DR and it has been great to me. I like Harley .. . just wish they would like me back.
As a long time H-D fan boy, I am losing faith.
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#48
Guys, I wanted to post a brief status update about my bike. Even after the repairs to the leaking seal in December (see post #41) the problem did not go away. I continued riding the bike and brought it in for my 1,000 mile service. I asked H-D to use all Amsoil product (and I paid for it). After the service, the frequency seemed to be reduced even further... but more importantly when the bike got "stuck" in neutral, I could re-shift a second time and get it into gear. At least I didn't have to slow down, down shift, and then re-upshift.
The more I rode the bike I noticed it was happening less and less. By about 1,700 miles the problem seemed to have gone away almost completely. I'm now at 2,000 miles on the bike and I'm no longer having any issues at all. I'm pretty happy with the bike now, but I was very scared for a while that I had a lemon on my hands.
Here is some video of my most recent ride. Stay safe out there guys. Happy riding!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy9...able_polymer=1
The more I rode the bike I noticed it was happening less and less. By about 1,700 miles the problem seemed to have gone away almost completely. I'm now at 2,000 miles on the bike and I'm no longer having any issues at all. I'm pretty happy with the bike now, but I was very scared for a while that I had a lemon on my hands.
Here is some video of my most recent ride. Stay safe out there guys. Happy riding!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy9...able_polymer=1
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#50
Guys, I wanted to post a brief status update about my bike. Even after the repairs to the leaking seal in December (see post #41) the problem did not go away. I continued riding the bike and brought it in for my 1,000 mile service. I asked H-D to use all Amsoil product (and I paid for it). After the service, the frequency seemed to be reduced even further... but more importantly when the bike got "stuck" in neutral, I could re-shift a second time and get it into gear. At least I didn't have to slow down, down shift, and then re-upshift.
The more I rode the bike I noticed it was happening less and less. By about 1,700 miles the problem seemed to have gone away almost completely. I'm now at 2,000 miles on the bike and I'm no longer having any issues at all. I'm pretty happy with the bike now, but I was very scared for a while that I had a lemon on my hands.
Here is some video of my most recent ride. Stay safe out there guys. Happy riding!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy9...able_polymer=1
The more I rode the bike I noticed it was happening less and less. By about 1,700 miles the problem seemed to have gone away almost completely. I'm now at 2,000 miles on the bike and I'm no longer having any issues at all. I'm pretty happy with the bike now, but I was very scared for a while that I had a lemon on my hands.
Here is some video of my most recent ride. Stay safe out there guys. Happy riding!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy9...able_polymer=1
Peace.
Peace.