common Neutral pain finding it
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common Neutral pain finding it
Anyone found a solution to finding neutral on the new bikes with hydraulic clutches?
Not that its the end of the world finding neutral (altho fiddling with the shifter to get it into neutral when I should be focusing on traffic coming up to a light) but it does suck to mess with getting the bike into neutral all the time. 3,500 miles on the bike and still exactly as it was day one (hard to find neutral unless the bike is off) new Harley synthetic at 1,000 miles and of course no adjustment on the hydraulic systems.
The dealer says "give it till the 1000 mile service and neutral will be easier to find after that" kind of a standard answer for sure and kinda dumb if you ask me on a hydraulic system. If theres break in time then they should just use different synchro's and cut the gears where they mesh easier. And of course waiting didn't work.
And I'm sure the "different fluid option" answer will come out but keep in mind "your" year and if you have a hydraulic system or not. So that's not really the answer in this case.
So if Anyone has found a solution do tell,,,,,, thxs paul.
Not that its the end of the world finding neutral (altho fiddling with the shifter to get it into neutral when I should be focusing on traffic coming up to a light) but it does suck to mess with getting the bike into neutral all the time. 3,500 miles on the bike and still exactly as it was day one (hard to find neutral unless the bike is off) new Harley synthetic at 1,000 miles and of course no adjustment on the hydraulic systems.
The dealer says "give it till the 1000 mile service and neutral will be easier to find after that" kind of a standard answer for sure and kinda dumb if you ask me on a hydraulic system. If theres break in time then they should just use different synchro's and cut the gears where they mesh easier. And of course waiting didn't work.
And I'm sure the "different fluid option" answer will come out but keep in mind "your" year and if you have a hydraulic system or not. So that's not really the answer in this case.
So if Anyone has found a solution do tell,,,,,, thxs paul.
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Mine was difficult until around 700-800, and then it was fine.
Here's another perspective: I was riding with an experienced Motor Officer, and he saw me fishing for neutral. "Just shut it off", he said. I'm like...what?
"When you park a car with a standard transmission, do you leave it in first, or do you put it in neutral?"
So his suggestion was to just shut it off and leave it in first. I'm not sure that's what I want to do, but I did find out that if you just shut it off, it's a heck of a lot easier to find neutral.
Here's another perspective: I was riding with an experienced Motor Officer, and he saw me fishing for neutral. "Just shut it off", he said. I'm like...what?
"When you park a car with a standard transmission, do you leave it in first, or do you put it in neutral?"
So his suggestion was to just shut it off and leave it in first. I'm not sure that's what I want to do, but I did find out that if you just shut it off, it's a heck of a lot easier to find neutral.
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Thxs for the quik response........ and that sucks but is exactly what I figured. They really need to cut the gears better so they engage easier or add synchronizers if there aren't any and if there are they need to cut them different. If there are synchronizers They are more then likely brass of course so maybe theres another metal option bronze or something. Maybe that will be a 2015 thing,,,,,, LOL.
Last edited by hanny; 08-17-2014 at 12:35 AM.
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Anyone found a solution to finding neutral on the new bikes with hydraulic clutches?
Not that its the end of the world finding neutral (altho fiddling with the shifter to get it into neutral when I should be focusing on traffic coming up to a light)
And I'm sure the "different fluid option" answer will come out but keep in mind "your" year and if you have a hydraulic system or not. So that's not really the answer in this case.
So if Anyone has found a solution do tell,,,,,, thxs paul.
Not that its the end of the world finding neutral (altho fiddling with the shifter to get it into neutral when I should be focusing on traffic coming up to a light)
And I'm sure the "different fluid option" answer will come out but keep in mind "your" year and if you have a hydraulic system or not. So that's not really the answer in this case.
So if Anyone has found a solution do tell,,,,,, thxs paul.
My 2014 SGS has Harley Formula+ in the chain case and BelRay in the transmission from the 1000 mile service. Shifting and finding neutral is easy enough for me.
Search and check some oil threads, I think Harley Synthetic is a big mistake in these new bikes, as is listening to the dealer.
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3,200 on the Ultra. Finding neutral is a crap-shoot. Sometimes no problem at all, others a real PITA and temperature doesn't seem to make any difference.
Yesterday I pulled into a parking spot and couldn't find it, shut it off, moved the bike till it wouldn't move further, still nothing, moved it backwards, no go. Put it 1st, got off and left it. Came back out 30 minutes later and got neutral easily.
Yesterday I pulled into a parking spot and couldn't find it, shut it off, moved the bike till it wouldn't move further, still nothing, moved it backwards, no go. Put it 1st, got off and left it. Came back out 30 minutes later and got neutral easily.
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I can't say I really use neutral except at very long red lights and maybe the odd time I want to leave it running when I get off the bike. Regardless, I have found it is, for reasons I don't understand, much easier to find with a little nudge down on the heel shift peg than up on the toe shift peg.
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