Second look the wire harness is not correct as well

70 plus years old - most of the parts look off the shelf - it hurts the price as most today are looking totally original - the PC frame takes 5 to 6 thousand of valve away alone

12 to 15 thousand - real today its twice that amount at least - and with provenance you could add more

 

Thanks for the information!

 

I will suggest that you have a bike with a lot of repop parts. The good is that the VIN is very nice and clean.

RE: frame (original anyway) have casting numbers on them similar to these markings (varied by year)




As John mentioned the wiring is definitelyaftermarket. Appears that the sheetmetal (at least the rear fender and gas tanks) is also



In 1950 they started to date code cylinders. I do not see any. 1948 & 1949 EL cylinders had no marking but those look like repop.



Cylinder heads had casting codes as well



To determine real from repop would take a lot of close up inspection.

That said, so what. It is a nicely assembled custom with a really good VIN on it.

West coast I think you get an easy 12-14K for it

 

Thank you for the detailed response! I will get over to his house in a couple weeks and see what is what.

 

Also another thought for why the frame is probably not original....an original frame did not have a zerc fitting in the neck

 

Nice bike but can you post a clearer photo of the serial number please. Thanks. In the meantime compare the 5 and 0 with these.






If the left case is H-D you may find a belly number (BN) underneath. For example 350-1234 or 150-5678. It may be stamped near the outer edge and somewhat toward the front and it should be visible even with a crankcase guard in place. Photo?

R-H case is not 1950. Instead it is about mid-52 or later because it has provision for a tappet oil screen as per Shop Dope 330.









R-H case may have a BN underneath. For example 152-1500. Photo?

In your picture below, what do I see on top of the cases? R-H case may have a 7 (?) but I’m not sure what is on the left case? Maybe another 7 (?) or something else? Originally, E-series H-D cases did not have 7s there. Can you post a clear photo of both these markings please.





Trans case does not look like a 1950 model because its vent screw boss has not been machined. Instead notice the vent screw goes through the lid. Under the case you may find indented casting number 121-35 and indented 1, 1E, 2 or 2E. Also present may be a casting date code on a raised plate. For example 3 3, 1 58 etc. Let us know what you find.


Just out of curiosity, what brand are they?
Eric

 

STD heads is what is was told. I'll gather the other information as soon as I get back over there

 

Had some pictures that shows the case numbers. I thought they were original based off the information I read. Could be wrong, not an expert or a panhead guy by no means

This is what I was told "For early Panheads a 7 was again used to tell 74ci (F/FL) from 61ci (E/EL) models. Panheads had at least two types of 7: seriffed; and sans serif. First was the seriffed 7 and it’s the only type I’ve seen so far on 1948 Pans" "I’ve seen both types for 1949 and also for 1950 but at some point during the 1950 model year the sans serif 7 seems to have taken over completely."

 

Curious to see Eric's response. Im wondering if they used tandem stamps for the model year which would place your 5 and 0 closer together like his example. That and the 7 being present on a 61 CI engine. Interesting stuff.

 

Many El 61 machines in the shop were converted when they needed a top end to 74 back then - 1964 - 65 the money was cheap to do and it afforded a boost in power we also were doing tank to foot conversions - tank went out of favor and foot is an easier rider in the city - doing it all was 5 6 hundred back then or you could buy another bike for the same money - but foot pans were the newer ones not the older stuff and everyone wanted the new

no one knew what the 7s were for or even paid any attention to that -